The thread isn't about BLM. Let's leave that one alone now please.

Again let me clarify, I was referring to the discussion regarding past conditioners and again, what ever the squad or year it was then if I was a professional player and blowing out of my aris every game and again I would make amends with extra work and regarding present day I wouldn’t ever divulge any thing on here. Regarding Jordy he has more pressing things to think about like helping Wakey to get back to winning ways.

Got to feel for Poaching coming to a club that's on melt down, players not performing, fans arguing among them selves, he's going to wish he never took on the job ,

He was the one that took it, he's a grown man and I'm sure he'll realise he has two options. He can sit back and sulk or roll his sleeves up and get stuck in.

I am glad the subject of our purported head of Fitness conditioning is being discussed. I would also like to add that I agree with other posters who have pointed out that this club had the fittest team ever under Jeff Evans. If we were about level at half time with any team you knew for certain the game was ours in the second half.

Now back to the present. It is my understanding that fitness conditioning and sports science in general has moved on to levels that were never even considered back in the 80's and 90's. Usually people who now make a living it that field are highly trained and have a solid educational background to degree level at least. It is now recognised as a genuine science in its own right.

It is also my understanding that the man who is in this position at our club turned up on the doorstep one day selling mobile phones. Agar saw him and as a favour to an old mate he never sold a phone but walked out of the club with a new job as a conditioner. Other than being a mate of Agar I am not sure what qualifications he has in respect of the job. Again I am only a supporter but the team dosn't look that fit to me, certainly no where near the standard under Evans. I also watch all the other teams on sky and many of those seem miles in front of us in fitness and intensity. Hopefully when we get a new coach the bloke will be given someone new on the conditioning side to help him

I know which one it will be....

I hope he turns up with a machete and cuts back all the dead wood

noticed few seasons ago that wigan had a new young lad in sat next to him he's Head of Sports Science & Analysis, lovely lad from Wakefield Danny Blundell he played along side my lad at Stanley Rangers really pleased to see his progress in the game, just shows how stagnate we have become

Hell need more than a macete a few bulldozers may best option

It does not matter who brought him to the club, what matters is, is he doing a good job the general consensus on here says no, although I'm sure he would not agree, the problem is and I say problem because it would appear that the management don't agree with the fans and must think he's doing a good job otherwise the coach Mr Chester would want rid of him, he clearly thinks he's doing a good job which is why he's still here unless he's working without wages if we can afford to bring in players we don't need which once again Chester clearly thinks we do, then why no new conditioner, tbh I'm past caring whether he stays or goes and that's both of them, I don't need to be a coach or a conditioner to see things aren't right the players are playing with no confidence they're dispirited, clueless and look disinterested why is that? for me it's a lack of confidence in the coach and his staff.

All the deadwood as in? Be interesting on your thoughts as to who these people are, eg certain players or coaching staff.

you sound like your happy to continue with the staff we have,
I losing all interest in the game with the club there's nothing to even get excited about anymore there's no battle in them something has to change and a clean sweep would be the ideal thing, I had stopped criticising players until the Battye loan signing he just don't see him the next level up, Gigot frustrates the hell out of me because he's better then what he's shown us, I maybe wrong but we can't keep on going like this