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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Pretty much everyone else except us are allowed to pilot test crowds returning.'"
Why do you think that is?
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| I’m surprised Cas are allowed fans in considering A) It’s Jungle and B) they’re a bunch of scruffs. 
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| Quote TheDreadnought="TheDreadnought"Why do you think that is?'"
We haven’t got a game?
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| Quote Sacred Cow="Sacred Cow"We haven’t got a game?'"
Sports pilots are not able to take place in areas with high coronavirus incidence rates. For this reason the Salford Red Devils v Warrington Wolves fixture, also scheduled for September 30, has not joined the approved list for spectators in the pilot programme.
Why couldn’t a game be arranged involving Trinity at home to one of the above clubs. Makes sense to me. 
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Sports pilots are not able to take place in areas with high coronavirus incidence rates. For this reason the Salford Red Devils v Warrington Wolves fixture, also scheduled for September 30, has not joined the approved list for spectators in the pilot programme.
Why couldn’t a game be arranged involving Trinity at home to one of the above clubs. Makes sense to me.
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As it stands Belle Vue hasn't had the ok to stage games anyway so why would they re-write the fixture list for a game that might not be able to take place?
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Quote PopTart="PopTart"But that's the point I guess. If there is a statewide or world wide opinion that you then challenge, the onus is on you to prove your case. You quote single people who challenge but that in itself isn't proof. You tend to then challenge everyone and say prove me wrong.
I haven't got all the facts to hand but I know people are dying because every news agency and every government says so. For you to challenge something that big can't be just done by throwing a fact in here and there. It has to be sound and logical and have substance. Much of your evidence, although very well written works on the basis that everyone else is lying. I just find that hard to believe.
And when we get into specifics like the pub scenario. To me, even if you are right, there is no hardship to rage against. Wearing masks and cleaning hands is just a good idea, covid or flu or other virus.
In terms of crowds at sporting events. That's tough there is no doubt but until the cases of Covid are under control it also seems like a good idea. We suffer more than most as we don't have a lot of money in the sport but it's down to the RFL to find a way.
And the car implication you speak of isn't quite accurate. We all know there is a risk to driving. We don't drive like maniacs following our own rules. We follow government guidelines to drive at a speed limit to make the road safer. So if driving on a motorway that has always been 70 miles an hour, at 60 miles an hour because the limit has changed to make it safer, means it may save one life. Yep I do that. Don't you?'"
I don't think I have used the term "proof" but rather it is evidence that has to be taken seriously wether we like it or not. We are not getting evidence to counter the official narrative from main stream journalists or doctors and scientists. But that is not to say hundreds of the latter are, and have been from the start, challenging the words coming out of the mouths of Boris, Bill Whitty and that Hancock fella. I have noticed this almost from day one and that made me suspicious of the BBC, Sky, ITV etc. What I have seen can only be described as "fear porn" that has terrorised huge swaithes of the population.
Listen to the evidence from Eamon Holmes a well known TV and ratio journalist who reveald a couple of weeks ago that journalists are NOT being allowed to ask awkward questions of our politicians, at least not on the BBC, Sky etc.
My evidence does not work on the basis that "everyone else is lying" it is simply evidence. Not "everyone is lying" but the non lyers, those who aren't in the pay of big pharma, Bill Gates etc are being silenced, kicked of platforms such as twitter and youtube. Take Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA, as an example. Pretty much opposed to the narrative and why shouldn't he be if that's what he believes but many of his youtube videos were taken down almost as fast as he uploaded them. This is a man who was once a "go to" for the media when medical matters arose and who had regular newspaper columns. But not now, dropped like a hot potatoe since this covid bussiness started. He has since stopped uploading and is now on another platform .Brand New Tube
https://www.vernoncoleman.com/
International best-selling author, Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA, shows precisely how mortality figures have been fiddled to make the covid-19 deaths seem frightening. He explains how deaths from flu, pneumonia, dementia and respiratory disease have been listed as covid-19 deaths. He reports on the fact that a third of women with breast cancer have been denied treatment, and how Imperial College has found that the lockdowns which their exaggerated figures triggered, will lead to 1.4 million extra TB deaths.
Take the case of Dr Mohammad Iqbal who has been suspended for 12 months by the GMC simply for speaking out and telling the truth as he saw it from his position as a practicing doctor.
This is a GP with an unblemished 40 year record. Disgracefull the treatment he has recieved. Thankfully hundreds of doctors have signed a petition to have him re instated.
This begs the question, what are the politicians and the mainsteam media afraid of? You should be asking this but so far you appear to take everything they say as gospel.
Thankfully I hear that Hartley-Brewer on Talk radio challenged Whitty quite forcefully on the question of false positives re the testing showing the test to be totaly unreliable.
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Quote PopTart="PopTart"But that's the point I guess. If there is a statewide or world wide opinion that you then challenge, the onus is on you to prove your case. You quote single people who challenge but that in itself isn't proof. You tend to then challenge everyone and say prove me wrong.
I haven't got all the facts to hand but I know people are dying because every news agency and every government says so. For you to challenge something that big can't be just done by throwing a fact in here and there. It has to be sound and logical and have substance. Much of your evidence, although very well written works on the basis that everyone else is lying. I just find that hard to believe.
And when we get into specifics like the pub scenario. To me, even if you are right, there is no hardship to rage against. Wearing masks and cleaning hands is just a good idea, covid or flu or other virus.
In terms of crowds at sporting events. That's tough there is no doubt but until the cases of Covid are under control it also seems like a good idea. We suffer more than most as we don't have a lot of money in the sport but it's down to the RFL to find a way.
And the car implication you speak of isn't quite accurate. We all know there is a risk to driving. We don't drive like maniacs following our own rules. We follow government guidelines to drive at a speed limit to make the road safer. So if driving on a motorway that has always been 70 miles an hour, at 60 miles an hour because the limit has changed to make it safer, means it may save one life. Yep I do that. Don't you?'"
I don't think I have used the term "proof" but rather it is evidence that has to be taken seriously wether we like it or not. We are not getting evidence to counter the official narrative from main stream journalists or doctors and scientists. But that is not to say hundreds of the latter are, and have been from the start, challenging the words coming out of the mouths of Boris, Bill Whitty and that Hancock fella. I have noticed this almost from day one and that made me suspicious of the BBC, Sky, ITV etc. What I have seen can only be described as "fear porn" that has terrorised huge swaithes of the population.
Listen to the evidence from Eamon Holmes a well known TV and ratio journalist who reveald a couple of weeks ago that journalists are NOT being allowed to ask awkward questions of our politicians, at least not on the BBC, Sky etc.
My evidence does not work on the basis that "everyone else is lying" it is simply evidence. Not "everyone is lying" but the non lyers, those who aren't in the pay of big pharma, Bill Gates etc are being silenced, kicked of platforms such as twitter and youtube. Take Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA, as an example. Pretty much opposed to the narrative and why shouldn't he be if that's what he believes but many of his youtube videos were taken down almost as fast as he uploaded them. This is a man who was once a "go to" for the media when medical matters arose and who had regular newspaper columns. But not now, dropped like a hot potatoe since this covid bussiness started. He has since stopped uploading and is now on another platform .Brand New Tube
https://www.vernoncoleman.com/
International best-selling author, Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA, shows precisely how mortality figures have been fiddled to make the covid-19 deaths seem frightening. He explains how deaths from flu, pneumonia, dementia and respiratory disease have been listed as covid-19 deaths. He reports on the fact that a third of women with breast cancer have been denied treatment, and how Imperial College has found that the lockdowns which their exaggerated figures triggered, will lead to 1.4 million extra TB deaths.
Take the case of Dr Mohammad Iqbal who has been suspended for 12 months by the GMC simply for speaking out and telling the truth as he saw it from his position as a practicing doctor.
This is a GP with an unblemished 40 year record. Disgracefull the treatment he has recieved. Thankfully hundreds of doctors have signed a petition to have him re instated.
This begs the question, what are the politicians and the mainsteam media afraid of? You should be asking this but so far you appear to take everything they say as gospel.
Thankfully I hear that Hartley-Brewer on Talk radio challenged Whitty quite forcefully on the question of false positives re the testing showing the test to be totaly unreliable.
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| Quote snowie="snowie"Miro can you please tell us all what kind of medical expertise you have to back up all your claims please'"
They are not my claims. It is evidence collected from many worthy sources that I am simply passing on. Why do so many of you oppose this questioning of the official narrative? Shouldn't we all be doing this? It's our duty as citizens to question the crap that comes out of the mouths of politicians and their unelected "advisors". If we / I are wrong then so be it but for pitys sake hold them to task and stop shooting the messenger (me).
We were shafted over Newmarket by York Court and the Council AND the government but we questioned everything. But now we meekly lle down and let the buggers walk all over us? Something that is a thousand times more important. Honestly, I was shocked when I came on here and found almost everyone nodding in agreement with all we were being told. I said on here weeks ago they were falsifying the death figures, I was pilloried for that but now the government have admited the figures have been hugley inflated. I didn't need medical expertise to find that out.
In answer to your question, None. 
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"And on the plan for Belle Vue..... Why ask us.
The RFL have their plan.
Belle Vue will be assessed in its merits for health and safety same as always.'"
Errr, it's forum with a thread called What now for fans watching ? 
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| Quote Miro="Miro"Errr, it's forum with a thread called What now for fans watching ?
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So tell us your opinion rather than asking us as a weak way to prove there is a problem.
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| Quote Miro="Miro"They are not my claims. It is evidence collected from many worthy sources that I am simply passing on. Why do so many of you oppose this questioning of the official narrative? Shouldn't we all be doing this? I=#FF0000t's our duty as citizens to question the crap that comes out of the mouths of politicians and their unelected "advisors". If we / I are wrong then so be it but for pitys sake hold them to task and stop shooting the messenger (me).
We were shafted over Newmarket by York Court and the Council AND the government but we questioned everything. But now we meekly lle down and let the buggers walk all over us? Something that is a thousand times more important. Honestly, I was shocked when I came on here and found almost everyone nodding in agreement with all we were being told. I said on here weeks ago they were falsifying the death figures, I was pilloried for that but now the government have admited the figures have been hugley inflated. I didn't need medical expertise to find that out.
In answer to your question, None.
'" yes your correct we should question the crap that comes out of anyone's mouth that's why I questioned you about your medical experience which you had admitted to having zero but you simply read it on line, do you honestly think the government is doing this on purpose in fact the whole world is in for destroy its self,
you only have to look at some of the cranks out there take David Icke for instance gets his crap on the internet you read it and your bought, I'd rather read and listen to the ones with the relative experience and take my judgement from them not a rugby league forum.
I'd rather we error in caution that just open the country up to be overcome with covid 19
stay safe
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| Quote Miro="Miro"They are not my claims. It is evidence collected from many worthy sources that I am simply passing on. Why do so many of you oppose this questioning of the official narrative? Shouldn't we all be doing this? It's our duty as citizens to question the crap that comes out of the mouths of politicians and their unelected "advisors". If we / I are wrong then so be it but for pitys sake hold them to task and stop shooting the messenger (me).
We were shafted over Newmarket by York Court and the Council AND the government but we questioned everything. But now we meekly lle down and let the buggers walk all over us? Something that is a thousand times more important. Honestly, I was shocked when I came on here and found almost everyone nodding in agreement with all we were being told. I said on here weeks ago they were falsifying the death figures, I was pilloried for that but now the government have admited the figures have been hugley inflated. I didn't need medical expertise to find that out.
In answer to your question, None.
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I agree with a lot you say about this topic, there are so many things that don’t make sense coming from the Government and it’s medical experts. So many things swept under the carpet like the illegal immigrants coming over in their thousands, being hushed up by government and main stream media. When something doesn’t seem right, then question it, and use your own common sense, if it looks like a duck.
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| Anyone noticed if games are kicking off at actual time specified? Just asking as now 8.15 kick offs for second match would their be a problem if a game went to golden point and the pub said kicking out time. Not on about our matches but all matches.
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