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| Just to add my two pence to the will the RFL kick out a club in 2012, I think IF and it is still a big IF, Salford, Cas & Wakefield do get substantial under way with the development then the RFL will not kick anyone out. I think the RFL have to be seen to be tough and look how much everyone at both Cas and Wakey is doing to make the new stadium's happen... so it is working! Even the RFL are not that bloody stupid because if these ground developments do start in time then kicking out a club is to most probably make them bankrupt, and the RFL will not do that! Widnes, Leigh & Halifax have got their grounds sorted outside of SL and if they don't get admitted they will still be there and still in business and able to apply in another 3 years.
The issue is who will and who won't get that sorted in time? I think the RFL feel that not all of the schemes will come off, I don't think they are wishing for it at all, just that it won't happen and then conyinuing to deny NL1 side a place is also very difficult for an independent sporting body!
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Quote Fully="Fully"Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster.
However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352
That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.'"
Yes, but read the story, it was unpredicted and a surprise and the IOD guys says, right at the bottom, that this ain't going to be maintained. The Bank of England, as I said, has just down graded its growth forecast and while the construction industry had it's biggest growth in years, it was purely because schemes that had stopped or had been put on hold started up again. Leeds & Wakefield have two examples of massive retail scheme that have done just that. However, the Government has canned (for now they say?) 700 new BSF projects that were in the pipeline, OK 700 still go ahead but Yorkshire was hit hard and the 4 new Bradford school projects have all been canned!
There has been an over development of Leeds City Centre office space in recent years but that was because they developed two much residential space and many sites got switched over. Now that Leeds City centre residential space is in short supply again, they will build more flats and once again when they oversupply, they will switch back to office... what goes around etc!
Don't mix up city centre office space with out of town office space, they do generally serve different sectors and requirements and some businesses use both for different strands of their business.
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Quote Fully="Fully"Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster.
However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352
That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.'"
Yes, but read the story, it was unpredicted and a surprise and the IOD guys says, right at the bottom, that this ain't going to be maintained. The Bank of England, as I said, has just down graded its growth forecast and while the construction industry had it's biggest growth in years, it was purely because schemes that had stopped or had been put on hold started up again. Leeds & Wakefield have two examples of massive retail scheme that have done just that. However, the Government has canned (for now they say?) 700 new BSF projects that were in the pipeline, OK 700 still go ahead but Yorkshire was hit hard and the 4 new Bradford school projects have all been canned!
There has been an over development of Leeds City Centre office space in recent years but that was because they developed two much residential space and many sites got switched over. Now that Leeds City centre residential space is in short supply again, they will build more flats and once again when they oversupply, they will switch back to office... what goes around etc!
Don't mix up city centre office space with out of town office space, they do generally serve different sectors and requirements and some businesses use both for different strands of their business.
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| Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo"Yes, but read the story, it was unpredicted and a surprise and the IOD guys says, right at the bottom, that this ain't going to be maintained. The Bank of England, as I said, has just down graded its growth forecast and while the construction industry had it's biggest growth in years, it was purely because schemes that had stopped or had been put on hold started up again. Leeds & Wakefield have two examples of massive retail scheme that have done just that. However, the Government has canned (for now they say?) 700 new BSF projects that were in the pipeline, OK 700 still go ahead but Yorkshire was hit hard and the 4 new Bradford school projects have all been canned!
There has been an over development of Leeds City Centre office space in recent years but that was because they developed two much residential space and many sites got switched over. Now that Leeds City centre residential space is in short supply again, they will build more flats and once again when they oversupply, they will switch back to office... what goes around etc!
Don't mix up city centre office space with out of town office space, they do generally serve different sectors and requirements and some businesses use both for different strands of their business.'"
While all this is interesting (hmmmm) I really dont give a , all I want to see is builders, hundreds of the hairy d buggers grafting away on the 2 sites, I dont care whos ground is finished first just that both are completed and that idiotic sharing/merger talk is banished to historys dustbin (get me)
As for the RFL que sera sera, the lunatics will do as they please till the game is totally ed... Good luck with yours and I hope I havent offended our sensitive teacher with all this goodwill towards you lot

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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt""RFL's reasonable opinion as to the future performance"
The dark cloud has descended once more.'"
I don't like that statement much at all.
The entire question and answer is below
Quote Slugger McBattHow are the applications assessed?
Clubs are assessed on criteria in 5 key areas:
a. Commercial, Marketing, Media and Community.
b. Facilities.
c. Finance.
d. Governance and Business Management.
e. Playing Strength and Player Performance Strategy.
Clubs that meet all of the A Grade criteria across the 5 areas will be awarded an A Grade licence. Clubs that materially meet all the A Grade criteria and/or satisfy the RFL that they will meet the criteria in the next round of licensing will be awarded a B Grade licence.
The RFL will then allocate the remaining Super League licences to those existing Super League clubs and/or Championship clubs which applied for a licence and met the Championship Club Minimum Criteria. The licenses will be allocated to those clubs that the RFL board believes are the most suitable, taking into account the:
=#FF0000a. Extent to which each club helps meet the SLE Strategy and the strategic aims and objectives of the Licensing process;
b. Historical activity of the clubs under consideration; and
c. RFL’s reasonable opinion as to future performance of the clubs under consideration.
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Those 3 points give the RFL licence once again to just do whatever they want.
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| Quote ambernotyeller="ambernotyeller"While all this is interesting (hmmmm) I really dont give a poop, all [uI want to see is builders, hundreds of the hairy d buggers grafting away on the 2 sites,[/u I dont care whos ground is finished first just that both are completed and that idiotic sharing/merger talk is banished to historys dustbin (get me)
As for the RFL que sera sera, the lunatics will do as they please till the game is totally loved... Good luck with yours and I hope I havent offended our sensitive teacher with all this goodwill towards you lot
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Builders and grafting in the same sentence  When did that last happen 
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| Cant see any local builders or tradesmen getting in on the act at either site!! Can see it being cheap EEC labour for companies to maximise the profits on the build!!! So thats a blow to the local economy. Even after the sites are completed can you actually honestly think that there will be jobs for locals? NOT!
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| Quote teds wallet moth="teds wallet moth"Cant see any local builders or tradesmen getting in on the act at either site!! Can see it being cheap EEC labour for companies to maximise the profits on the build!!! So thats a blow to the local economy. Even after the sites are completed can you actually honestly think that there will be jobs for locals? NOT!'"
=#BF0040If you continue this pointless, relentless, negative take on everything - then you will be doing it elsewhere!
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| Quote ambernotyeller="ambernotyeller"Bloody hell big fella, we live in hope , [uand a few builders with local pride may graft their rubbish off on these projects[/u ...................................................................... naahhh mebbe your right, get the kettle on
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Thats true enough but i'll be the BIG builders doing this job.
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| Quote teds wallet moth="teds wallet moth"Cant see any local builders or tradesmen getting in on the act at either site!! Can see it being cheap EEC labour for companies to maximise the profits on the build!!! So thats a blow to the local economy. Even after the sites are completed can you actually honestly think that there will be jobs for locals? NOT!'"
Lets not bother then, call it all off and then get back to blaming Ted for the demise of the club 
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| Quote ambernotyeller="ambernotyeller"While all this is interesting (hmmmm) I really dont give a poop, all I want to see is builders, hundreds of the hairy d buggers grafting away on the 2 sites, I dont care whos ground is finished first just that both are completed and that idiotic sharing/merger talk is banished to historys dustbin (get me)
As for the RFL que sera sera, the lunatics will do as they please till the game is totally loved... Good luck with yours and I hope I havent offended our sensitive teacher with all this goodwill towards you lot
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Bet our builders are hairier d than yours.
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