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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: deeHell "Since mid 2009, the budget has been slashed with the following players leaving, Peterson, Rooney plus Pitts and Atkins with a transfer fee in return. 2010 we started with a smaller ( assuming cheaper) playing squad than in previous years while we had inflation busting admission fees. From the 2010 squad we lost two high earners in Brough and Tronc. In this period we have received half the payments for the sale of Belle Vue, naming rights payments for Belle Vue and money from new shares issued in 2009!

So where has it all gone? Certainly not on our tax bill considering we still a big amount. All I know is that this has happened in the time that Teds personal financial problems have hit home.'"


So you are ' surmising ' that he has been taking money out of the club to help out himself financially , but you don't actually know what the situation ' financially ' the club was in before that time , the club might well have had debts that were guaranteed personally by your BOD , believe me that would not be unusual

The bottom line is you don't know , and probably never will , how long has he controlled the club ? , usually the crooked ones don't last long

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Quote: Starbug "So you are ' surmising ' that he has been taking money out of the club to help out himself financially , but you don't actually know what the situation ' financially ' the club was in before that time ,[size the club might well have had debts that were guaranteed personally by your BOD[/size , believe me that would not be unusual

The bottom line is you don't know , and probably never will , how long has he controlled the club ? , usually the crooked ones don't last long'"


That may well be the case, if so it makes a mockery of claims on here over the years that he was the saviour of Wakefield Trinity. All along he's been racking debts up in the clubs name not investing his personnel wealth.

Of course nobodys knows, with the wall of silence all we can do is try and work out whats happened with the facts we know. All I know is what I posted is what we know.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: deeHell "That may well be the case, if so it makes a mockery of claims on here over the years that he was the saviour of Wakefield Trinity. All along he's been racking debts up in the clubs name not investing his personnel wealth.

Of course nobodys knows, with the wall of silence all we can do is try and work out whats happened with the facts we know. All I know is what I posted is what we know.'"


I love that term ' Investing ' , what you actually mean is ' throwing away ' ! Trying to make up the shortfall because of the apathy of fans who would rather watch the footy or Leeds/Bradford and the like and spend their money on beer in the pub , but as soon as Cas are in town , they are lifelong loyal every match fans

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Quote: Starbug "I love that term ' Investing ' , what you actually mean is ' throwing away ' ! Trying to make up the shortfall because of the apathy of fans who would rather watch the footy or Leeds/Bradford and the like and spend their money on beer in the pub , but as soon as Cas are in town , they are lifelong loyal every match fans'"
what money ?

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Quote: Starbug "I love that term ' Investing ' , what you actually mean is ' throwing away ' ! Trying to make up the shortfall because of the apathy of fans who would rather watch the footy or Leeds/Bradford and the like and spend their money on beer in the pub , but as soon as Cas are in town , they are lifelong loyal every match fans'"


Well we I suppose the proper terminology would be an emotional investment!

As for the rest of your post...an amateur attempt at fishing! Please try harder c020.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: deeHell "Well we I suppose the proper terminology would be an emotional investment!

As for the rest of your post...an amateur attempt at fishing! Please try harder
An amateur icon_lol.gif , it cost me a lot of money then for an amateur , as I have said , I don't know Mr Richardson although I probably have met him at RFL council meetings , there is no business in the normal world that can prepare you to run a pro sports club , everybody is going into it as an amateur , unfortunately all too often the line between fan and owner , and common business sense and ambition becomes blurred

You should try it icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "An amateur why dont you go back on the borefest on the V.T with sid james and wellsey, where you 3 have asked the same questions 100s of times in different ways. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: deeHell "Since mid 2009, the budget has been slashed with the following players leaving, Peterson, Rooney plus Pitts and Atkins with a transfer fee in return. 2010 we started with a smaller ( assuming cheaper) playing squad than in previous years while we had inflation busting admission fees. From the 2010 squad we lost two high earners in Brough and Tronc. In this period we have received half the payments for the sale of Belle Vue, naming rights payments for Belle Vue and money from new shares issued in 2009!

So where has it all gone? Certainly not on our tax bill considering we still a big amount. All I know is that this has happened in the time that Teds personal financial problems have hit home.'"


And herein lies the arguement. If the club had come forward and explained these sort of questions so the fans had some form of an understanding why we are in the pickle that we are in, then I would suspect that more than 10 investors would have come forward.

Too much secrecy.. too many lies... within the select group-hug.gif

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Quote: Roonaldo6 "And herein lies the arguement. If the club had come forward and explained these sort of questions so the fans had some form of an understanding why we are in the pickle that we are in, then I would suspect that more than 10 investors would have come forward.Too much secrecy.. too many lies... within the select
Or not , you would mostly have done exactly what Deehell and others are doing now , slag off the board for incompetance , as I said , if you think you can do better , have a go , not be hard for a couple of people to put together 3/4 hundred grand these days if they really wanted to , just sell your houses and take a chance , lets face it , it cant be that hard running a SL club can it , most of them are making big profits icon_wink.gif

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "why dont you go back on the borefest on the V.T with sid james and wellsey, where you 3 have asked the same questions 100s of times in different ways.
Are you a moderator on this board ? , no , so I'll happilly continue posting here thanks , until I am asked not to by somebody in authority , if you dont like that , tough

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Starbug, you make a lot of good points and the grief your getting is because a lot of it what people don't want to hear.

They is no doubt decisions have been made which have contributed to the situation we now find the club in and things could been done a hell of a lot better, but as a club with small support and no wealthy benefactor it's also a case of trying to spin too many plates at the same time. Those plates have been wobbling for a while and are now falling off.

Personally I believe the inevitable now is administration. The lack of info and confusion regarding the share offer has largely contributed to that. I think most fans accept Trinity will be the club to leave SL in July, if they are still an entity of some sort. The key now is making the best of what the future holds.

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Quote: Starbug "Or not , you would mostly have done exactly what Deehell and others are doing now , slag off the board for incompetance , as I said ,[size if you think you can do better , have a go[/size , not be hard for a couple of people to put together 3/4 hundred grand these days if they really wanted to , just sell your houses and take a chance , lets face it , it cant be that hard running a SL club can it , most of them are making big profits 3.29443359375:5
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