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| Jools is always serious about trolling
you're not gonna get anything sensible out of that
If you say its Day, she'll say its night
She'll tell you its black when you know its white
its always the same, its just a shame........lol
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| You are on your own Jools. 2 matches with EGP reducing to 1.
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| Quote: Mable_Syrup "I can't work out if you are serious or on the wind up.
It was a shoulder charge - he's been found guilty
More than one player remonstrated with the ref at the time
Shoulder charges should always get punished, injury or no injury
The coach hasn't whined. Just said the facts which have been proved correct'"
Nope it wasn't a shoulder charge- that's not what the player was charged with or found guilty of. If you keep saying it it doesn't make it true.
No one remonstrated with the ref until after the hudds player called over the medic- the wakey players were setting up for the next play prior to when they saw BJB was injured.
Perhaps they should - but it wasn't a shoulder charge. See earlier.
He has whined - he called it an "attack to the head" what a crock of poop to be calling that "a fact" He has no idea of the intention of the player.
Oh and for the record I haven't complained about the ban. Taais shoulder made contact with BJBs head (note for those that don't understand the rules- That's not the same as a shoulder charge)
so a punishment is fair enough. But it really doesn't warrant some of the hysteria from the wakey coach and fans.
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| I thought as I saw it, he drove towards his head then leaned forward with his shoulder and twisted, no arm in the tackle.
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| The crowd around me all reacted to it so you can't say no one noticed it.
But anyway, you've made your point now Jools. As you say, repeating it doesn't make it true.
The evidence shows a hit to the head. Whether you call it a shoulder charge or any high tackle doesn't make Ben's face any less painful.
It should have been penalised at the time but wasn't.......hence the hysteria you seem to see in the couple of comments about it.
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| Quote: PopTart "The crowd around me all reacted to it so you can't say no one noticed it.
But anyway, you've made your point now Jools. As you say, repeating it doesn't make it true.
The evidence shows a hit to the head. Whether you call it a shoulder charge or any high tackle doesn't make Ben's face any less painful.
It should have been penalised at the time but wasn't.......hence the hysteria you seem to see in the couple of comments about it.'"
It doesn't make his face less painful, but it matters as if taai had shoulder charged him as then hes used an illegal tackle- then you could indicate some intent at foul play rather than an accident.
The crowd all around you (but not you?) reacted to something almost 100metres away? Wow. That's some eyesight. I was half that distance away and couldn't see the details. Did they react as the hit occurred? Or after when bjb was on the floor in some distress? Yet looking at the video Liam Finn stood half a metre away didn't react at all- he just looks around to see who to give the ball to from dummy half as he's expecting the ball to be played....
Theres lots that should be penalised at the time but isn't. there's a video of a similar shoulder to the head on brough doing the rounds on social media as an example. Broughs head is obviously harder than bjbs nose.
It's a tough sport and people get hurt. The suggestion by your coach that taai intended harm perhaps says more about the type of player Chester was than the type of player taai is.
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| Quote: jools "It doesn't make his face less painful, but it matters as if taai had shoulder charged him as then hes used an illegal tackle- then you could indicate some intent at foul play rather than an accident.
The crowd all around you (but not you?) reacted to something almost 100metres away? Wow. That's some eyesight. I was half that distance away and couldn't see the details. Did they react as the hit occurred? Or after when bjb was on the floor in some distress? Yet looking at the video Liam Finn stood half a metre away didn't react at all- he just looks around to see who to give the ball to from dummy half as he's expecting the ball to be played....
Theres lots that should be penalised at the time but isn't. there's a video of a similar shoulder to the head on brough doing the rounds on social media as an example. Broughs head is obviously harder than bjbs nose.
It's a tough sport and people get hurt. The suggestion by your coach that taai intended harm perhaps says more about the type of player Chester was than the type of player taai is.'"
I was up on my feet shouting as soon as the cheap shot went in. He hit Bish as he was held in the tackle and going down. If the ref had been looking instead of jogging back to the line thinking the play was over he'd have given at least 10 minutes there and then. The guy charged in at full pelt on a player who was held fast and going down, probably because he saw the ref wasn't looking - you want to defend that fine, I think it's part of the grubby tactics Hudds used all through the second half.
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| Quote: wakeyrule "I was up on my feet shouting as soon as the cheap shot went in. He hit Bish as he was held in the tackle and going down. If the ref had been looking instead of jogging back to the line thinking the play was over he'd have given at least 10 minutes there and then. The guy charged in at full pelt on a player who was held fast and going down, probably because he saw the ref wasn't looking - you want to defend that fine, I think it's part of the grubby tactics Hudds used all through the second half.'"
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PITY it didn't get us 2 points so this try is really irrelevant
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| look on the bright side, nobody got an undeserved ban for an accidentally reckless high tackle that was completely under their control and thus contained no intent to injure.
spare a thought for poor ole Shudds, been right royally rogered by the disciplinary panel they have....
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| It is entirely relevant as it was worth going to see such a memorable try, win or lose.
Plus Ben had been subjected to some unfair criticism , by the negative brigade.
The try emphasised his ability.
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| Quote: thebeagle "The try emphasised his ability.'"
For me though, that's the problem right there.
It certainly did emphasise his ability, the trouble is that ability is not always on display. He's been a real enigma for Trinity.
When you know a player is so skilled but inconsistent it feels much worse than having a mediocre player who you know will give you consistency.
To an extent, you can coach around mediocrity. It's harder when drawing up a game plan to have to try and second guess whether on the night, someone will be a world beater or just making the numbers up.
That being said, if the price was right i'd probably hang on to him. But the price would have to be very right.
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