But the RFL do not want us

We only think that, we won't know officially for another couple of months!!!

Which isn't true.

Hope so

It is, ask Dickie Mint

I agree - but you would have to wonder where we are losing out if indeed we are as so many seem to think. I get the feeling that either people like Martyn Sadler either know something or are being very presumptive. As far as I can see we are not out of it according to criteria.

Please don't confuse me with someone what gives a toss, but if it helps at all read his posts.



Well according to the every day postings on here, he is self employed and employs others, he was on £40k per annum 2 years ago, presumably it has risen since then, why should he be barred from a ground we do not frequent, I don't personally eat that muck from kfc so I can't comment on his health, due to his reluctance to stick his hand in his pocket for any causes on here, I doubt he would goto the expence of a pet, unless it was some preditory animal, and as for his mother being ill I was under the impression thats according to the majority on here anyway, that he never had any parents hope that answers your serious question.

How do you know? And will you still think the same if/when we are no longer in SL, and teams with far worse applications are kept?

We are just going to have to wait until to July to find out for definite but to me it looks like we are heading for a spell in the championship.

I don't think they are a 'subsidiary' of the rugby union club - from what I can gather they are an independat organisation who work in partnership with the RU side and are 100% independantly owned. Fair enough they are reliant on the union side for their facilities - but is this much different from any one of the clubs who share a football ground?

For what its worth, I think they have probably messed up with the tie in with the rugby union side - think they would have been better off trying to convert non rugby fans rather than tap into the posh city boys, but I dont know enough about the local area to know where best for them, but I do think they are worht their slot in the league. They have made mistakes in the past and look to have made some bad decisions (just some other sides, us included) - but to single them out over any other club isn't fair I don't think.

No what I'm saying is that if they were not in SL and applied they wouldn't get in as I don't think they would average attendances anywhere near 2,500. I think we would.

Thus I don't think they would hit the one million turnover mark. I think we would, just.

You could argue that we should as we are in the heartland and London are not. However as I say after 30 years I'd like to know when that is no longer a valid excuse?

So by my reckoning if they left SL they would never get back in. Where as we with a new ground might, we will certainly make the criteria. That for me does not offer much validation for RL in London.

In what way, where is your evidence I just don't get your desire to prove your own club wrong without a fight. Are you on a mission. As I said and unlike you I'm not claiming I'm right I'm just asking fair and REASONABLE questions, what do you find so wrong with that. I'm sorry but I don't consider London a sacred cow, I also have no probs with Widnes replacing us IF we are the weakest club - like many I not convinced we are. I think London is, I'm a positive thinker, I'm a heretic burn me.

So for your benefit and without semantics let's try again.

A. Did you not fancy that one
B. A given as I said.
C. No, why are their finances better, I'm not kidding are you. Now that going into admin doesn't count on the criteria we are probably the only debt free club in the comp. Do you really think they are.
D. Same as above, we are either a new club or we are not - you can't have it both ways. In which case we can have done nothing wrong.
E. The best time to judge that is at the end of the season, but then RL in contrast to all other sports doesn't work like that. You're only as good as your last game in most sports, except in RL where it's your last season/seasons or how many bars and toilets you have.