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| From the very short clip I saw of the trys against us .HI was the only one who tried to stop him .First try Max got old of him there are 4 players who could have helped get him to the ground but stood and watched .Last try The winger had a clear run to the line .M J did well to get near him .Against Wigan away the full back for us could not be bothered chasing after the players .Yet you have a go at M J for that attitude .I'v decider we are going down so any thing else is a bonus .But will still go watch them this season him and away .
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| No complaints at Max when he's trying to tackle players and others are just stood watching within arms reach.
And for one he ran past 2 players to attempt a tackle.
And also put the pass in for one of the tries.
AND no one was screaming for us to sign their fb when he was on loan with us.
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| Hearing that we flew out to France on morning of match[don't know whether true or not] but if so, players must have been up very early Sunday morning.
T.O. apparently pay for all away teams flights so why didn't Trinity fly out on Saturday morning,book into hotel for one night and give the players 24 hour to get some short acclimatisation to temperature [high 20s apparently] some relaxation and a good nights rest before the game.
We are supposed to be a professional top flight club, If this was a money saving exercise by Trinity, it as backfired spectacularly. This result against TO could cost us come the end of the season
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| Did not go to the match so can't comment on it, but irrespective of the manner in which we conceded the tries and to be fair we've let worse in than those, we lost the game because for once Lino did not have his kicking boots on, made far worse by how desperate we was to win this game, just my perspective that's all.
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| PT you are the man with the stats so how many offloads did we make yesterday and who averaged the most metres per run.
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| Quote: KevW60349 "Hearing that we flew out to France on morning of match[don't know whether true or not] but if so, players must have been up very early Sunday morning.
T.O. apparently pay for all away teams flights so why didn't Trinity fly out on Saturday morning,book into hotel for one night and give the players 24 hour to get some short acclimatisation to temperature [high 20s apparently] some relaxation and a good nights rest before the game.
We are supposed to be a professional top flight club, If this was a money saving exercise by Trinity, it as backfired spectacularly. This result against TO could cost us come the end of the season'"
According to Twitter feed they landed in Toulouse around 11.00 am . Must have left here vv early … not great prep!
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| Quote: KevW60349 "Hearing that we flew out to France on morning of match[don't know whether true or not] but if so, players must have been up very early Sunday morning.
T.O. apparently pay for all away teams flights so why didn't Trinity fly out on Saturday morning,book into hotel for one night and give the players 24 hour to get some short acclimatisation to temperature [high 20s apparently] some relaxation and a good nights rest before the game.
We are supposed to be a professional top flight club, If this was a money saving exercise by Trinity, it as backfired spectacularly. This result against TO could cost us come the end of the season'"
Too expensive I guess
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| Quote: cocker "According to Twitter feed they landed in Toulouse around 11.00 am . Must have left here vv early … not great prep!'"
U.K. or European time ?
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| Quote: KevW60349 "Hearing that we flew out to France on morning of match[don't know whether true or not] but if so, players must have been up very early Sunday morning.
T.O. apparently pay for all away teams flights so why didn't Trinity fly out on Saturday morning,book into hotel for one night and give the players 24 hour to get some short acclimatisation to temperature [high 20s apparently] some relaxation and a good nights rest before the game.
We are supposed to be a professional top flight club, If this was a money saving exercise by Trinity, it as backfired spectacularly. This result against TO could cost us come the end of the season'"
I get what your saying about timescales ,but they have hardly done a shift down the pit before hopping on the plane ,these are to all intents and purposes pampered athletes who just have to turn up in the right frame of mind and bust a nut for 80 mins ,it’s not much to ask for in the big scheme of things ,then chill for another week ,with latte’s been the order of the day interspersed with some gym work . The writing was on the wall for this lot when they nearly mutinied after Smith tried getting a grip with the lacklustre holiday camp style ,that you and me know as Belle Vue . This lot wouldn't get into a Wigan or saints second team let alone a first team because their attitude stinks . The likes of Reece lynne who still has 3 years left have given up trying imo and walks around the field like he’s on a Sunday stroll , he’s one of our seniors and should be leading by example and giving them a kick up the arris . All we ask if for them to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in and play with some heart and spirit ,it doesn’t take a genius to see that’s not happening. I hope they put more effort in on Friday against another struggling team and prove to everyone they are worth our hard earned money supporting them. Even I who witnessed some shockers over the years is feeling despondent and resentful that this current crop of Trinity players just don’t seem interested in playing for our club .
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| Quote: chissitt "Did not go to the match so can't comment on it, but irrespective of the manner in which we conceded the tries and to be fair we've let worse in than those, we lost the game because for once Lino did not have his kicking boots on, made far worse by how desperate we was to win this game, just my perspective that's all.'"
IMO We lost the game due to our shocking goal line defence it wasn’t because Lino didn’t bring his boots ,no one man was to blame for that abysmal performance . I have rarely seen such apathy in a defensive set even in the amateur game . Simply not good enough .
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| Quote: Kettykat "I get what your saying about timescales ,but they have hardly done a shift down the pit before hopping on the plane ,these are to all intents and purposes pampered athletes who just have to turn up in the right frame of mind and bust a nut for 80 mins ,it’s not much to ask for in the big scheme of things ,then chill for another week ,with latte’s been the order of the day interspersed with some gym work . The writing was on the wall for this lot when they nearly mutinied after Smith tried getting a grip with the lacklustre holiday camp style ,that you and me know as Belle Vue . This lot wouldn't get into a Wigan or saints second team let alone a first team because their attitude stinks . The likes of Reece lynne who still has 3 years left have given up trying imo and walks around the field like he’s on a Sunday stroll , he’s one of our seniors and should be leading by example and giving them a kick up the arris . All we ask if for them to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in and play with some heart and spirit ,it doesn’t take a genius to see that’s not happening. I hope they put more effort in on Friday against another struggling team and prove to everyone they are worth our hard earned money supporting them. Even I who witnessed some shockers over the years is feeling despondent and resentful that this current crop of Trinity players just don’t seem interested in playing for our club .'"
Not sure what’s happened to Lyn but he seems so out of form it’s unreal. When he got beat by a pass yesterday he just stood while Jowitt motored to overtake him and another player to at least attempt to make a tackle. Lyn looks to me like he’s lost a yard of pace too. He’s a strong bloke and he’s a current international. I was expecting a lot more from him.
Yesterday I thought Fifita, Whitbread, Hall and Murphy were really good and didn’t deserve to be on the loosing side. Our forwards got the better of Toulouse yesterday and we had a mountain of field position. Just couldn’t do much with it yet again and the attitude and application in defence was poor on our line.
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| Think you've hit it bang on kettykat
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Not sure what’s happened to Lyn but he seems so out of form it’s unreal. When he got beat by a pass yesterday he just stood while Jowitt motored to overtake him and another player to at least attempt to make a tackle. Lyn looks to me like he’s lost a yard of pace too. He’s a strong bloke and he’s a current international. I was expecting a lot more from him.
Yesterday I thought Fifita, Whitbread, Hall and Murphy were really good and didn’t deserve to be on the loosing side. Our forwards got the better of Toulouse yesterday and we had a mountain of field position. Just couldn’t do much with it yet again and the attitude and application in defence was poor on our line.'"
I only watched it via a telephone live stream but thought that the game went when we did the non move on the last tackle, literally anything would have been better than what we did. Then they went length of the field (with our assistance as usual) and scored
Our forwards did seem to dominate for long stretches and it really exposed how ineffective our playmakers are - if liam finn had been playing we would have won
PS big thank you to the guy that streamed his phone !!
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Not sure what’s happened to Lyn but he seems so out of form it’s unreal. When he got beat by a pass yesterday he just stood while Jowitt motored to overtake him and another player to at least attempt to make a tackle. Lyn looks to me like he’s lost a yard of pace too. He’s a strong bloke and he’s a current international. I was expecting a lot more from him.
Yesterday I thought Fifita, Whitbread, Hall and Murphy were really good and didn’t deserve to be on the loosing side. Our forwards got the better of Toulouse yesterday and we had a mountain of field position. Just couldn’t do much with it yet again and the attitude and application in defence was poor on our line.'"
At least by what your saying there is hope going forwards Trojan , at least they all weren’t still on the plane , my comments on lynne weren’t meant to pick him out ,but just to state that these elder statesmen should step up to the plate when the going gets tough and can and should make a difference,but as you say it’s hard to be competitive when half the team are trying alongside lots of passengers.
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| Quote: Kirmudgeonlyisback "I only watched it via a telephone live stream but thought that the game went when we did the non move on the last tackle, literally anything would have been better than what we did. Then they went length of the field (with our assistance as usual) and scored
Our forwards did seem to dominate for long stretches and it really exposed how ineffective our playmakers are - if liam finn had been playing we would have won
PS big thank you to the guy that streamed his phone !!'"
I didn't see the game, but I've read a few comments saying the forwards did more than enough, but yet just a few weeks ago virtually everybody was saying they weren't up to it, but 1-7 we were fine?! Go back right to the start, I think the forwards did ok against Hull, even Catalans away, both games we were right in it at half-time when you look at the scoreline. The last 2 we were winning at half time, but all 4 of those we ended up losing, same old story really? Those last 7 games of last season under Poching we win 5, with the likes of Arundel playing, and others who people were saying, these kind of players need to be moved on, if we are to progress?! I really haven't got a clue anymore as to why we don't win more games, as simple as it sounds, I don't know if it's ability for some of them, attitude, coaching, fitness, or they simply aren't mentally tough enough for the week in week out slog of it all.......
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