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| Agar is a fool he is a lousy coach and its now time for Mr Glover to wake up and sack him because if he stays much longer the gates will be under 5000 again the bench last night was a joke a bit like the coach
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| Quote: Trinitythefuture "Hahaha are you for real ? Have you forgotten last season ?'"
and the season before, the funny thing is that some of the same faces that are moaning now, were moaning about Kear and wanted him out.
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| PRevious posters have it right. I remember Kear teams rolling over and dying on countless occasions over tIe years. Very short memories.
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Check last years result, think we got rolled over more than a handful of times last season! Warrington & St's and Wigan away interesting when looking at our results there this year
www.superleague.co.uk/results?season=2011
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Check last years result, think we got rolled over more than a handful of times last season! Warrington & St's and Wigan away interesting when looking at our results there this year
www.superleague.co.uk/results?season=2011
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| Quote: merlin "Check last years result, think we got rolled over more than a handful of times last season! Warrington & St's and Wigan away interesting when looking at our results there this year
Looking at the results from last year is unreprestative of JK's time here and tells nothing of the story of the season and the background to it.
I doubt ANY other coach would have got that number of wins last year and, in my regret, I was one of those who thought the time was right for change. How wrong I was!
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| Quote: Trinitythefuture "Hahaha are you for real ? Have you forgotten last season ?'"
How do you compare the two seasons so far and the two coaches.
Last years aldi budget squad v this years highly paid bunch?
Serious question.
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| J K should have been offered a 1 year deal, if only to test the water. I have no problem with Agar, but the teams not up to it.
Last season was in many respects expected, J k had very little to work with
The expectation for2012 was high and the present crop of players have let the club n coach down.
I think Agar will remain at the club for some time, we will however see a bit of a clear out at the end of the season.
THEY JUST AINT GOOD ENOUGH , the interesting question how many will remain.
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| Quote: TRB "Looking at the results from last year is unreprestative of JK's time here and tells nothing of the story of the season and the background to it.
I doubt ANY other coach would have got that number of wins last year and, in my regret, I was one of those who thought the time was right for change. How wrong I was!
You wasn't wrong at all, it was time for a change. Sadly when you make a change though you need to make it for the better. We didn't and we will reap wot we sow. We are paying getting on for 50% more for this years squad compared to last year. We have strengthen the back room staff and the money we spend on nutrition and other player care, improved facilities etc. Are we seeing a significant increase in performance to match the significant increse in investment? In my opinion, no we aren't.
I know someone who was going to get a £100 season ticket but in the end didn't. Speaking to him recently he is extremely glad he didn't as from what he has seen so far he wouldn't want to feel obliged to go week in week out because they are 'so poor to watch'.
As i've said elsewhere i'm willing to give Agar a bit longer to get it right but if things haven't improved in the next month then its going to be difficult justify supporting him any longer. We should be doing better, its time to see results.
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| Quote: El Rey "How do you compare the two seasons so far and the two coaches.
Last years aldi budget squad v this years highly paid bunch?
Serious question.'"
Can't really compare last season but what about the one before, far better squad even with the disruptions we had that season, who'd had a very good year the season before, 9 wins we got and some absolute spankings.
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| should it be questioned the appointment of Agar? and the contract he was offered
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "Can't really compare last season but what about the one before, far better squad even with the disruptions we had that season, who'd had a very good year the season before, 9 wins we got and some absolute spankings.'"
So, do you feel we'll get nine wins this term and how wil we compare with the spankings.
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| Quote: lampyboy "J K should have been offered a 1 year deal, if only to test the water. I have no problem with Agar, but the teams not up to it.
Last season was in many respects expected, J k had very little to work with
The expectation for2012 was high and the present crop of players have let the club n coach down.
I think Agar will remain at the club for some time, we will however see a bit of a clear out at the end of the season.
THEY JUST AINT GOOD ENOUGH , the interesting question how many will remain.'"
Who would you get rid of? And how many years contract would we have to pay them?
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| Quote: El Rey "So, do you feel we'll get nine wins this term and how wil we compare with the spankings.'"
I don't think we will get nine wins, but I don't think we'll get massively spanked either, it's a pay off between the two this season.
Hopefully this will add a bit of stability and give more to build upon.
Hopefully!!!
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| I feel there in scope for plenty of improvement but has Agar got the balls to ship Smith off back to where he came from. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he signed and suprised me with his performance v Widnes but.......sadly a rock in defence, a tactical kicking supremo, and game changing MOTM performer he most certainly isn't. scapegoat ?? Yes !!! But he sure has earnt that accolade. (and I like the way he shouts at the defence when he just made a FAKE tackle on the try scorer)
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| Quote: Trinitythefuture "I feel there in scope for plenty of improvement but has Agar got the balls to ship Smith off back to where he came from. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he signed and suprised me with his performance v Widnes but.......sadly a rock in defence, a tactical kicking supremo, and game changing MOTM performer he most certainly isn't. scapegoat ?? Yes !!! But he sure has earnt that accolade. (and I like the way he shouts at the defence when he just made a FAKE tackle on the try scorer)'"
On a pedantic note, a scapegoat doesn't earn the tag, he is given it down to the failings of others;
1. Noun
a person or group made to bear the blame for others or to suffer in their place.
I'm certainly not here to defend him, but surely if he doesn't make it crack him not being here on anything longer than a 1 year deal is exactly right.
I think he is a scapegoat, but as suggested its down to a few others not him.
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