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Quote: Ouzlewell Cat "

So the brakes are on guys - i have also been told that both Wakefield and Castleford are being encouraged to open dialogue over ground sharing (probably at Glasshoughton, but thats just my guess).'"


If Wakefield agreed to a ground share at Glasshoughton, Newmarket stadium would not get any council funding. WMDC would put all their funds into GH, they would then provide a stadium within WMDC, they would then have completed what they promised and that would be it. Somehow I can't see us falling for that one.

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Quote: jack in the box "If Wakefield agreed to a ground share at Glasshoughton, Newmarket stadium would not get any council funding. WMDC would put all their funds into GH, they would then provide a stadium within WMDC, they would then have completed what they promised and that would be it. Somehow I can't see us falling for that one.'"



Seeing as it isn't getting any council funding anyway what difference would that make???

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "If it’s about grounds sharing for a year until the planning issues are resolved then I would advocate turning to Oakwell rather than Glasshoughton. The benefits of this may extend to Trinity picking up new support from that area, especially if[i they can get Parky as and ambassador.[/i They will not pick up any new support from playing in Castleford.

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Waxes lyrical about Barnsley and Barnsley FC but not often seen there.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "If it’s about grounds sharing for a year until the planning issues are resolved then I would advocate turning to Oakwell rather than Glasshoughton. The benefits of this may extend to Trinity picking up new support from that area, especially if they can get Parky as and ambassador. They will not pick up any new support from playing in Castleford.

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Surely this is the most obvious solution for Wakefield Trinity Wildcats! [iIf[/i the planning permission does get called in we all know we could be looking at a good 2 year delay. Why not have an agreement in place with Barnsley FC to play there for the next 3 franchise years if need be. There is no way we could be turned down for franchise with such an application. I have my doubt weather the ground at Glasshoughton would ever be built without any financial input from us or Wakey council so why feed the enemy? The distance from Wakey to Glasshoughton is the same as Wakey to Barnsley. Where are not going to win any new fans what so ever playing in Cas. Playing in Barnsley in the short term opens us up to all new potential new fans. It keeps the club alive until the time comes that we can move to our New Ground.

Having said that I'm still pretty confident that planning permission will be granted for Stanley. All concerns of the objectors have been addressed by the developers. The guys that grant permission to these developers aren't stupid, they aren't fooled by these emotional arguments. They are level headed professionals that judge these things on cold hard facts. The fact that such an influential man like Sir Rodney Walker is involved makes me more confident.

If anyone has seen todays Wakefield Express you would probably know that the chances of the council putting any money into a stadium development in the near future are probably next to zero. We are about to face the biggest slash on public spending in well over a generation. With a budget cut off around 25% (£30m shortfall) it's hard to see it been politically possible for such funding to be available for a lot of years to come.

No more talk of bailing out a struggling projects like Glasshoughton. Lets wait on the planning permission but have a plan B, that is in Wakefield Trinitys interest not our rivals.

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Quote: deeHell "<snip>'"


Couldn't agree more.

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Playing in Barnsley would be a nightmare for those using public transport to go to games. Trains can be more expensive and buses I don't think go direct on a Sunday from Wakefield to Barnsley. Blame Arriva for cutting back good services between the two.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Playing in Barnsley would be a nightmare for those using public transport to go to games. Trains can be more expensive and buses I don't think go direct on a Sunday from Wakefield to Barnsley. Blame Arriva for cutting back good services between the two.'"


Thats a very very minor problem that could be solved with very little effort considering whats at stake!

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Playing in Barnsley would be a nightmare for those using public transport to go to games. Trains can be more expensive and buses I don't think go direct on a Sunday from Wakefield to Barnsley. Blame Arriva for cutting back good services between the two.'"


Arrange car-shares. Get the club to put buses on from Wakey. Get organised, and it can work. No one would want it to be a permanent arrangement (except for the resident Barnsley fans, maybe), but for the sake of a season, 2 at the worst, SL rugby and a new ground at the end of it, it has to be worth it, doesn't it?

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Quote: inside man "I will happily watch a Wakey Trin side in the championship but i would never support a merged team, for that reason neither would i support a shared stadium as once we where in we would be pushed into a merger.

Bring on the Northern Rail Cup.

SL is not the be all and end all some make it out to be.'"


yep me too!

ask any TRUE fan of any team in any sport and they will tell you the same.

I watched wakey in the old first division and enjoyed the day they got promoted.

had we lost to cas on the decider night i would have still supported trinity

castleford supporters stood by their team when they were relegated.

this is what TRUE SUPPORTERS do.

any merged team would be nothing to do with wakefield trinity in my eyes, in the same way sheffield and gateshead ceased to exist.

time to cancel the sky and wave SL good riddance.

i would get my rugby fix in batley or dewsbury

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Quote: deeHell "Surely this is the most obvious solution for Wakefield Trinity Wildcats! [iIf[/i the planning permission does get called in we all know we could be looking at a good 2 year delay. Why not have an agreement in place with Barnsley FC to play there for the next 3 franchise years if need be. There is no way we could be turned down for franchise with such an application. I have my doubt weather the ground at Glasshoughton would ever be built without any financial input from us or Wakey council so why feed the enemy? The distance from Wakey to Glasshoughton is the same as Wakey to Barnsley. Where are not going to win any new fans what so ever playing in Cas. Playing in Barnsley in the short term opens us up to all new potential new fans. It keeps the club alive until the time comes that we can move to our New Ground.

Having said that I'm still pretty confident that planning permission will be granted for Stanley. All concerns of the objectors have been addressed by the developers. The guys that grant permission to these developers aren't stupid, they aren't fooled by these emotional arguments. They are level headed professionals that judge these things on cold hard facts. The fact that such an influential man like Sir Rodney Walker is involved makes me more confident.

If anyone has seen todays Wakefield Express you would probably know that the chances of the council putting any money into a stadium development in the near future are probably next to zero. We are about to face the biggest slash on public spending in well over a generation. With a budget cut off around 25% (£30m shortfall) it's hard to see it been politically possible for such funding to be available for a lot of years to come.

No more talk of bailing out a struggling projects like Glasshoughton. Lets wait on the planning permission but have a plan B, that is in Wakefield Trinitys interest not our rivals.'"


That sounds like a decent plan B to me.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "If it’s about grounds sharing for a year until the planning issues are resolved then I would advocate turning to Oakwell rather than Glasshoughton. The benefits of this may extend to Trinity picking up new support from that area, especially if they can get Parky as and ambassador. They will not pick up any new support from playing in Castleford.

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From Barnsley (Cudworth) when its suits him unlike Dickie Bird who is proud to say hes from Barnsley

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Quote: deeHell "Surely this is the most obvious solution for Wakefield Trinity Wildcats! [iIf[/i the planning permission does get called in we all know we could be looking at a good 2 year delay. Why not have an agreement in place with Barnsley FC to play there for the next 3 franchise years if need be. There is no way we could be turned down for franchise with such an application. I have my doubt weather the ground at Glasshoughton would ever be built without any financial input from us or Wakey council so why feed the enemy? The distance from Wakey to Glasshoughton is the same as Wakey to Barnsley. Where are not going to win any new fans what so ever playing in Cas. Playing in Barnsley in the short term opens us up to all new potential new fans. It keeps the club alive until the time comes that we can move to our New Ground.

Having said that I'm still pretty confident that planning permission will be granted for Stanley. All concerns of the objectors have been addressed by the developers. The guys that grant permission to these developers aren't stupid, they aren't fooled by these emotional arguments. They are level headed professionals that judge these things on cold hard facts. The fact that such an influential man like Sir Rodney Walker is involved makes me more confident.

If anyone has seen todays Wakefield Express you would probably know that the chances of the council putting any money into a stadium development in the near future are probably next to zero. We are about to face the biggest slash on public spending in well over a generation. With a budget cut off around 25% (£30m shortfall) it's hard to see it been politically possible for such funding to be available for a lot of years to come.

No more talk of bailing out a struggling projects like Glasshoughton. Lets wait on the planning permission but have a plan B, that is in Wakefield Trinitys interest not our rivals.'"

I think this would be the best idea if the planning takes longer than expected.Like you mention the people that make the planning decisions aren't stupid along with the fact of big government cutbacks on council spending and the fact it won't cost Wakefield Council a penny,makes the Newmarket Development a no-brainer. WMDC should be looking at this development as a opportunity to bring business and sports facilities they other wise wouldn't be able to afford to build any time in the foreseeable future and thus maintaining the improvements the Council have been doing in the City.

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "From Barnsley (Cudworth) when its suits him unlike Dickie Bird who is proud to say hes from Barnsley'"

The Parky comment was tongue in cheek, but the Oakwell option ought to be considered as a plan B.

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "From Barnsley (Cudworth) when its suits him [iunlike Dickie Bird who is proud to say hes from Barnsley'"
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Quote: captaincaveman "yep me too!
ask any TRUE fan of any team in any sport and they will tell you the same.
I watched wakey in the old first division and enjoyed the day they got promoted.
had we lost to cas on the decider night i would have still supported trinity
castleford supporters stood by their team when they were relegated.
this is what TRUE SUPPORTERS do.
any merged team would be nothing to do with wakefield trinity in my eyes, in the same way sheffield and gateshead ceased to exist.
time to cancel the sky and wave SL good riddance.
i would get my rugby fix in batley or dewsbury'"


then I must not be a true supporter then, which has come as a bit of a shock to me, I can tell you!!!
A merged team would represent Wakefield, not trinity I know, and a lot of people would not like it and would not go, but I would.
And ask all the lower league clubs, with previous higher league experience and healthier gates where their true supporters have dissapeared!!
A reality check perhaps??

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