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In my first post I mentioned influenza, how we spread the flu year after year, a lot of that by visiting Belle Vue in our thousands, especially in winter and without any concern for those who will die from it, I never thought about it anyway, and the implication was a criticism of any suggestion we should not have the lockdown.
Now that’s actually a very logical argument don't you think? And it cuts right to the heart of why the lockdown and the rest is so dangerous a precedent to set – for any nation,. One of the key questions is: how do you get out of a lockdown, distancing, masks etc. once it’s been started?

How are your people going to get us out of this? I have yet to see any plan? Certainly not a vaccine, reported to be only 50% effective re influenza and less so in the oldies. I cannot see Bill's vaccine being any different plus it will take years to find out just how effective it is.

Methinks there isn't one. That is, a plan to get us out of this.. icon_sad.gif

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In nearly every post you make you do a little leap and then base your conclusions on that. And then don't understand people don't agree.


This bit makes two points that are not as clean cut as you imply...

"In my first post I mentioned influenza, how we spread the flu year after year, a lot of that by visiting Belle Vue in our thousands, especially in winter and without any concern for those who will die from it"

Spread of flu can't be connected to Belle Vue. For a start off most are outside which is the least likely place.
So to then say that nobody cares as a link to lockdown is not the same.

If there was suddenly a few people with food poisoning after a game, our food huts would be investigated and possibly shut down.
If there was a link to a serious virus we'd also be investigated.
Flu isn't one of those.

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Quote: PopTart "In nearly every post you make you do a little leap and then base your conclusions on that. And then don't understand people don't agree.


This bit makes two points that are not as clean cut as you imply...

"In my first post I mentioned influenza, how we spread the flu year after year, a lot of that by visiting Belle Vue in our thousands, especially in winter and without any concern for those who will die from it"

Spread of flu can't be connected to Belle Vue. For a start off most are outside which is the least likely place.
So to then say that nobody cares as a link to lockdown is not the same.

If there was suddenly a few people with food poisoning after a game, our food huts would be investigated and possibly shut down.
If there was a link to a serious virus we'd also be investigated.
Flu isn't one of those.'"


Are you seriously suggesting the flu is spread differently to “covid”. Or, as you imply, not spread by human contact in large crowds be it outdoors, in the stands, bars or in the shop. Not to mention shared cars and buses and last but not least, a large influx of visitors numbering a couple of thousand?

I was of the understanding that both were transmitted in the same way. Or does covid have it's own unique way of jumping from one person to the next? And, if not, why the social distancing everywhere including outdoors.

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Quote: Miro "Are you seriously saying the flu is spread differently to “covid”. Or, as you imply, not spread by human contact in large crowds be it outdoors, in the stands, bars or in the shop At all? Not to mention shared cars and buses and last but not least, a large influx of visitors numbering a couple of thousand?

I was of the understanding that both were transmitted in the same way. Or does covid have it's own unique way of jumping from one person to the next? And, if not, why the social distancing everywhere including outside.'"


And are you suggesting that the population have not built up a whole load of immunity against seasonal flu, meaning that most of us are largely immune.
Yes, it spreads in just the same way but, they are not the same virus.

Anyway, are you still suggesting that the covid 19 virus is fake and that it's still part of a world re set or, is there another master plan in action to control the world's population.

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So, it seems Pfizer have found a workable vaccine.
Let's see how that goes.

Can't remember if Pfizer are in the New World Order group.
I think I'll see if those taking it grow two heads before I dive in but it sounds promising.

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I still wonder why Miro continues his crusade on this little backwater, his belief and commitment really needs to be taken to a wider audience, clearly Miro understands how to post on media platforms so it's not a great leap into a pool where others can experience the benefit of his thought's, statistics, quotations, his commitment to putting people right, his witless repartee, please Miro share the load, the narrow RLFans Forum despite being connected in the same way as most of the rest of society is not special to COVID 19.

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Quote: PopTart "So, it seems Pfizer have found a workable vaccine.
Let's see how that goes.

Can't remember if Pfizer are in the New World Order group.
I think I'll see if those raking it grow two heads before I dive in but it sounds promising.'"


Two heads, don't knock it it could be a useful side effect

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Quote: wrencat1873 "And are you suggesting that the population have not built up a whole load of immunity against seasonal flu, meaning that most of us are largely immune.
Yes, it spreads in just the same way but, they are not the same virus.

Anyway, are you still suggesting that the covid 19 virus is fake and that it's still part of a world re set or, is there another master plan in action to control the world's population.'"


Just for the record, there is no immunity from seasonal or any other flu.
Hence, why there's a vaccine and people unfortunately still die from it. That's why there are monthly/yearly figures regarding it's outbreak and mortality rate.

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Quote: PopTart "So, it seems Pfizer have found a workable vaccine.
Let's see how that goes.

Can't remember if Pfizer are in the New World Order group.
I think I'll see if those taking it grow two heads before I dive in but it sounds promising.'"


Ill save miro the trouble


https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/ ... is-the-cl/
Quote: PopTart "So, it seems Pfizer have found a workable vaccine.
Let's see how that goes.

Can't remember if Pfizer are in the New World Order group.
I think I'll see if those taking it grow two heads before I dive in but it sounds promising.'"


Ill save miro the trouble


https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/ ... is-the-cl/


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Quote: Miro "Are you seriously suggesting the flu is spread differently to “covid”. Or, as you imply, not spread by human contact in large crowds be it outdoors, in the stands, bars or in the shop. Not to mention shared cars and buses and last but not least, a large influx of visitors numbering a couple of thousand?

I was of the understanding that both were transmitted in the same way. Or does covid have it's own unique way of jumping from one person to the next? And, if not, why the social distancing everywhere including outdoors.'"


Course it is....
You could (before 5th November) only contract Covid in a pub after 10pm and not at 9pm...... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: PopTart "So, it seems Pfizer have found a workable vaccine.
Let's see how that goes.

Can't remember if Pfizer are in the New World Order group.
I think I'll see if those taking it grow two heads before I dive in but it sounds promising.'"


Yes, it appears they areThe foundation invested in Pfizer back in 2002 and still owns shares. It also owns shares of Pfizer's coronavirus development partner, BioNTech.

Don't look for Pfizer to deliver sizzling growth. However, the stock could provide market-beating total returns with its dividends. My view is that Bill Gates is right that Pfizer is the clear leader in the coronavirus vaccine race, and I agree with the Gates Foundation that the stock is a pretty good bet for investors."

"None of the vaccines are likely to seek approval in the U.S. before the end of October." However, Gates sounded optimistic that "at least two or three" coronavirus vaccines could seek emergency use authorization.

Does he mean a Beta version? Well, we know how well that worked with his bug ridden microsoft operating systems. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Miro "Yes, it appears they areThe foundation invested in Pfizer back in 2002 and still owns shares. It also owns shares of Pfizer's coronavirus development partner, BioNTech.

Don't look for Pfizer to deliver sizzling growth. However, the stock could provide market-beating total returns with its dividends. My view is that Bill Gates is right that Pfizer is the clear leader in the coronavirus vaccine race, and I agree with the Gates Foundation that the stock is a pretty good bet for investors."'"


I agree with all that and I join you in congratulating Bill on investing in a company like that giving them the capital to move quickly to find a vaccine for us all.

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Quote: Miro "Yes, it appears they areThe foundation invested in Pfizer back in 2002 and still owns shares. It also owns shares of Pfizer's coronavirus development partner, BioNTech.

Don't look for Pfizer to deliver sizzling growth. However, the stock could provide market-beating total returns with its dividends. My view is that Bill Gates is right that Pfizer is the clear leader in the coronavirus vaccine race, and I agree with the Gates Foundation that the stock is a pretty good bet for investors."'"


Just for balance.
It would be a surprise if they didn't own shares in Pfizer.

FWIW, I seem to have shares in them too, through my pension portfolio, maybe my pension provider is also part of the "global re-set" ?? icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Just for balance.
It would be a surprise if they didn't own shares in Pfizer.

FWIW, I seem to have shares in them too, through my pension portfolio, maybe my pension provider is also part of the "global re-set" ??
I don't know, ask the WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM, why ask me?
It's their baby, not mine.

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Quote: PopTart "I agree with all that and I join you in congratulating Bill on investing in a company like that giving them the capital to move quickly to find a vaccine for us all.'"


But 99.9% don't require a vaccine. Why the fuss and expenditure?
Oh yes, Bill and the shareholders.

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