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Quote: JINJER "Very petty, pedantic or pathetic, yor grandma is obviously butter than shifty cats, well done the grammer police.
It is iritating though when you see the yank versions of our language everywhere. At work I'm forever correcting words like Fiber, Sulfur and Meter. The worst example we see in everyday life must be the supposedly British Holiday experience Parcs!

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "It is iritating though when you see the yank versions of our language everywhere. At work I'm forever correcting words like Fiber, Sulfur and Meter. The worst example we see in everyday life must be the supposedly British Holiday experience Centre Parcs!'"

A lot of it's down to US spell checks and autocorrect. However, like King Canute before us, resistance is futile. Youth culture is swamped with americanisms. Sulfur is now the accepted spelling in British GCSE text books.
Even Cas' stadium is called the meh jungle???

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Quote: chissitt "Just to go off topic, has Cas got planning permission for their new ground.'"


The old site with Waystone, yes.

The new site opposite side of J32 with Lateral, no. It's still in consideration for planning. Even if it gets through, it will go to public inquiry IMO simply for the factors involved.

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Quote: Wildcat26 "Just out of interest can anyone on here with a bit more knowledge tell us what the situation is with the proposed plan to build a new stadium on green belt land? I know its the lateral property group that plan to build a long with retail units - Sounds very familiar.

A few Cas fans I have spoke to think it will be quite a smooth process, think they have had a few residents in the area objecting to the build.

Will be interesting to see if this has as many problems as Newmarket.'"



It has been submitted to the council for consideration. The deadline for hearing it is meant to be the end of next month but I've heard that this may be put back to the New Year now as it seems WMDC struggling to get through all the applications. One from March for the changing of B and Q to a Sainsbury's still yet to be heard.

I think there is a public demand from Castleford and surrounding areas and a recognition for the jobs, economic benefits and also the new stadium for Cas for it but as both clubs know, these things very rarely run smoothly or to plan.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "It may just be a rant but, it is without doubt that Mr Box and 2 of our local MP's are very much on favour at the "Mend-a-hose Jungle" and there would certainly be a strong whiff of favouritism, should the development sail through without all of the hoops and hurdles that Newmarket has had.

Having said that, they seem to have their fair share of NIMBYS over there as well.'"


Last I looked, Peter Box wasn't on the Planning Committee, nor is he the Secretary of State who adjudges to call it in for a public inquiry.

He may have affiliations with the Tigers but there is some straw clutching going on, particularly as the council have supported your application at Newmarket (regardless of what is going on now), even offering to pay the design fees if I remember rightly should it fail - link here: www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-974313. Perhaps you can point me to where Cas got offered the same help?
Quote: wrencat1873 "It may just be a rant but, it is without doubt that Mr Box and 2 of our local MP's are very much on favour at the "Mend-a-hose Jungle" and there would certainly be a strong whiff of favouritism, should the development sail through without all of the hoops and hurdles that Newmarket has had.

Having said that, they seem to have their fair share of NIMBYS over there as well.'"


Last I looked, Peter Box wasn't on the Planning Committee, nor is he the Secretary of State who adjudges to call it in for a public inquiry.

He may have affiliations with the Tigers but there is some straw clutching going on, particularly as the council have supported your application at Newmarket (regardless of what is going on now), even offering to pay the design fees if I remember rightly should it fail - link here: www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-974313. Perhaps you can point me to where Cas got offered the same help?


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Quote: Fully "Last I looked, Peter Box wasn't on the Planning Committee, nor is he the Secretary of State who adjudges to call it in for a public inquiry.

He may have affiliations with the Tigers but there is some straw clutching going on, particularly as the council have supported your application at Newmarket (regardless of what is going on now), even offering to pay the design fees if I remember rightly should it fail - link here:
Can we get things straight. It's not Wakefield Trinity's application its the Stadium Trust's application and it is they who will own the Stadium not Wakefield Trinity who will be tenants paying a rent to the Trust.

The Stadium at Glasshoughton was to be owned by Castleford Tigers and that being a private company it cannot receive "gifts" of public money.

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Quote: Sandal Cat "Can we get things straight. It's not Wakefield Trinity's application its the Stadium Trust's application and it is they who will own the Stadium not Wakefield Trinity who will be tenants paying a rent to the Trust.

The Stadium at Glasshoughton was to be owned by Castleford Tigers and that being a private company it cannot receive "gifts" of public money.'"


Wasn't it a private company that submitted the planning permission, ergo wouldn't the money be going towards a private company? And indeed, the Stadium Trust was going to own the stadium, they weren't paying for it; again, the stadium was being part-paid by a private company (Yorkcourt).

And Cas could quite easily have set up a trust as has been stated; however, this is going over old ground that we don't need to go over. The point was that there was a lot of council bashing on here and yet they have provided support to you guys with your stadium plans. They could have rejected the application, they didn't; they could have stood by and folded when Leeds opposed it, they didn't; they could have told you they weren't prepared to pay the above nor offer a £2m loan/grant/money, they didn't. They could have given in at public inquiry, they didn't.

Let's face it, any Cllr in this district regardless of affinity will want to deliver what the people want - it gets them votes. Quite frankly, if they didn't, they'd be out the door faster than you can say Maggie Thatcher.

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Quote: Fully "Wasn't it a private company that submitted the planning permission, ergo wouldn't the money be going towards a private company? And indeed, the Stadium Trust was going to own the stadium, they weren't paying for it; again, the stadium was being part-paid by a private company (Yorkcourt).

And Cas could quite easily have set up a trust as has been stated; however, this is going over old ground that we don't need to go over. The point was that there was a lot of council bashing on here and yet they have provided support to you guys with your stadium plans. They could have rejected the application, they didn't; they could have stood by and folded when Leeds opposed it, they didn't; they could have told you they weren't prepared to pay the above nor offer a £2m loan/grant/money, they didn't. They could have given in at public inquiry, they didn't.

Let's face it, any Cllr in this district regardless of affinity will want to deliver what the people want - it gets them votes. Quite frankly, if they didn't, they'd be out the door faster than you can say Maggie Thatcher.'"

Does that post mean anything?

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Well, yes. A few seem to think that there is a bias towards us. There isn't. Both aren't in a new stadium and both have been offered help.

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Quote: Fully "Well, yes. A few seem to think that there is a bias towards us. There isn't. Both aren't in a new stadium and both have been offered help.'"

How do you know what help the council has given to you or the Wakefield Community trust apart from pretending to be knowledgable reading fans forums.

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "How do you know what help the council has given to you or the Wakefield Community trust apart from pretending to be knowledgable reading fans forums.'"


Because both schemes have been in the public eye and any help would have to go through council meetings, hence the £2m loans offered to both, hence the design fees link I posted above.

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Quote: Fully "Wasn't it a private company that submitted the planning permission, ergo wouldn't the money be going towards a private company? And indeed, the Stadium Trust was going to own the stadium, they weren't paying for it; again, the stadium was being part-paid by a private company (Yorkcourt).

And Cas could quite easily have set up a trust as has been stated; however, this is going over old ground that we don't need to go over. The point was that there was a lot of council bashing on here and yet they have provided support to you guys with your stadium plans. They could have rejected the application, they didn't; they could have stood by and folded when Leeds opposed it, they didn't; they could have told you they weren't prepared to pay the above nor offer a £2m loan/grant/money, they didn't. They could have given in at public inquiry, they didn't.

Let's face it, any Cllr in this district regardless of affinity will want to deliver what the people want - it gets them votes. Quite frankly, if they didn't, they'd be out the door faster than you can say Maggie Thatcher.'"


Yes, but I believe that any monies paid were paid to the Stadium Trust and not to Wakefield Trinity or Yorkcourt. I may be wrong but the Council giving money to a Private Company would raise serious questions and may be "Ultra Vires".

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Apologies SC, you're right - it would certainly help if I read my own link (always a good starting place). It seems that a loan was taken out by the Trust to pay for them but if the stadium failed then the council would foot the bill for them.

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