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Quote: Agent XIII "Well time for another bout of honesty, did we stand with Leeds against the rest of SL if not then the matter is closed. If we did can you explain why because I would be very interested because I can see no reason.
I suppose you could say it was because they gave us an advance on our sky money but they did more for Bradford and I have not read any indication that they supported the RFL plan. The problem at the moment is that you appear to be very quiet on this subject when you would normally have denied it by now.'"



maybe some of us think about the good of the game as a whole and are not blinkered to the fact there is only superleague. I would say Gary H is one of those people and commend him for it. So the superleague 12 who voted for it how do they see things like the Challenge cup continuing etc ? will they start with 14 and then bit by bit lose teams such as London, Bulls , us and be left with 10 who then play each other so many times the fans & sponsors get bored. Im with the RFL lets safeguard THE GAME

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Quote: feline "maybe some of us think about the good of the game as a whole and are not blinkered to the fact there is only superleague. I would say Gary H is one of those people and commend him for it. So the superleague 12 who voted for it how do they see things like the Challenge cup continuing etc ? will they start with 14 and then bit by bit lose teams such as London, Bulls , us and be left with 10 who then play each other so many times the fans & sponsors get bored. Im with the RFL lets safeguard THE GAME'"

I'm in whole hearted agreement until the last bit.
They have done everything in their incapable and incompitent powers to reduce the game to where it is today.
We need change and for the good of the game and the RFL- and it needs to be quick, what we don't want though is myopic chairmen intent on furthering their own clubs at the expense of the game in general running the show.
Sadly we have such a skills vacuum at Red Hall that may well lead to the latter becoming a reality.

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Gary H can take the moral high ground because I doubt Leeds are going to face relegation unfortunately Kath H can't. Why have we not heard from MC in reply to my questions I would think quite a few supporters would like this clearing up.

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The biggest problem, as I see it, is that SL chairmen / club owners own SL Europe, one 14th each. In general they vote on self interest only. With the exception on Caddick / Hethrington and Ian Lenagan who seem to have had the interest of the whole game in mind over past seasons. They have run their clubs very well and must look at the other club owners and think you incompetant idiots. For 16 or so years SL clubs have been given £ 1.3 million p.a. by Sky and they have blown the lot on players wages. Why would we want these people making decisions about the game as a whole. Ian Lenagan took Wigan over 4 or 5 years ago when they turned over £ 3 million and lost £ 1 million, now thet turn over £ 6 million and make a profit, they produce the best players. I dont think SL club owners should get a vote on anything to do with the games until they can show that they can run their own club. I would much rather the RFL co op successfull club owners onto the RFL board and run the game.

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Agent - why don't you ask via email to the clubs website on Thursday instead of nagging MC on here !!

Do you really expect him to answer every one of your issues / questions ??

We as fans aren't entitled to know everything regarding how the club runs or in this case votes.

It'll be so much better to leave them be and just concentrate on how we can help individually and in numbers.

Anything of significance will be published so cut him some slack !!

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Quote: Agent XIII "Gary H can take the moral high ground because I doubt Leeds are going to face relegation unfortunately Kath H can't. Why have we not heard from MC in reply to my questions I would think quite a few supporters would like this clearing up.'"

On one hand you say that he's saying too much, then moan when he doesn't answer your questions.
You really are a quandary. icon_confused.gif

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No just making an interesting observation.

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Quote: Agent XIII " Why have we not heard from MC in reply to my questions I would think quite a few supporters would like this clearing up.'"


More than quite a few supporters are probably as peed off as MC is no doubt, at your constant whining Mrs.

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Quote: Agent XIII "No just making an interesting observation.'"

Interesting to who?
You need to re-set your consistency filter.

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So we replace a man who failed in the role twice with someone with a proven track record at bigger clubs, and respect within the game, and we're not happy? Sometimes I think we don't deserve to be more than the joke we keep turning into.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "So we replace a man who failed in the role twice with someone with a proven track record at bigger clubs, and respect within the game, and we're not happy? Sometimes I think we don't deserve to be more than the joke we keep turning into.'"



But if we don't complain about this then we might have to accept that things are being done as well as is possible at the moment (under the circumstances) and then where would some of our supporters be??
They need some excuse to moan and not buy tickets/support the club.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "So we replace a man who failed in the role twice with someone with a proven track record at bigger clubs, and respect within the game, and we're not happy? Sometimes I think we don't deserve to be more than the joke we keep turning into.'"

If a proven track record is losing half a million quid during every year of her tenure at Hull, then yes she has.

That said you are correct, she is a better bet than Elston.

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Surely the reverse is true you have accepted honesty is what we require therefore I have asked a question and still waiting an answer. I have said that sometimes the club say too much but you disagreed with this stance therefore don't you need to change your consistency filter.

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Quote: Agent XIII "Surely the reverse is true you have accepted honesty is what we require therefore I have asked a question and still waiting an answer. I have said that sometimes the club say too much but you disagreed with this stance therefore don't you need to change your consistency filter.'"

I don't have an issue with an open book policy as i have said, although i am bright enough to realise every thing isn't or indeed cannot be in the public domain (thats just plain common sense). It makes a pleasent change after all the b.s we have had lately.
You are the one that said the club says too much, but throw a hissy fit when they don't answer your every question.
My consistency filter is just fine, i just wonder (and clearly so do others) why exactly you have such an axe to grind?
You come across as a very very very bitter "man" which is unusual in someone who claims to be just a fan.
My guess is that you are/were in some way connected to a previous regime or just...well whatever!!
Bitterness shines through after a while.

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Quote: Agent XIII "Surely the reverse is true you have accepted honesty is what we require therefore I have asked a question and still waiting an answer. I have said that sometimes the club say too much but you disagreed with this stance therefore don't you need to change your consistency filter.'"


Your cover has been blown Andrew.

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