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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "That's not what I said s it?
There's nothing in any of the statements that says Kath Hetherington knew about the drug taking before the positive test was revealed and there's nothing to suggest that, once she knew, she was in any way part of the cover up.
What the Hull FC statement seems to suggest is that they weren't made aware of the impendinding investigation and for that reason they are disappointed in the former Chairpersons actions.
It's not rocket science!'"
Where did I indicate what you said, I merely commented on your post. Hull FC was run as a very tight ship (news wise) amongst the heirachy hence the reason for my comment.
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| Quote: HullFC50 "Where did I indicate what you said, I merely commented on your post. Hull FC was run as a very tight ship (news wise) amongst the heirachy hence the reason for my comment.'"
You replied directly to my post and had somehow misconstrued what I'd said so I corrected you!
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "That's not what I said s it?
There's nothing in any of the statements that says Kath Hetherington knew about the drug taking before the positive test was revealed and there's nothing to suggest that, once she knew, she was in any way part of the cover up.
What the Hull FC statement seems to suggest is that they weren't made aware of the impendinding investigation and for that reason they are disappointed in the former Chairpersons actions.
It's not rocket science!'"
without being confrontational If you knew anything at all about Hull FC then you would know that Kath Hetherington ran the club full stop....and James Rule was simply one of her 'Yes' men. fully entitled to your opinion / assumption though....but extremely naive
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| Quote: wwildcat48 "without being confrontational If you knew anything at all about Hull FC then you would know that Kath Hetherington ran the club full stop....and James Rule was simply one of her 'Yes' men. fully entitled to your opinion / assumption though....but extremely naive'"
In your opinion!
Without being conceited, I know plenty about Hull FC, The Hetheringtons, James Rule etc and I disagree with some of what you say.
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "In your opinion!
Without being conceited, I know plenty about Hull FC, The Hetheringtons, James Rule etc and I disagree with some of what you say.'"
sorry you clearly dont.....but humour me....tell me who was calling the shots ?
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| Ask agar why he brought long straight back into the hull team after a long injury lay off,when he didn't want to? Kath didn't want a player on a huge salary sat in the stands,at all costs! Kath ran the show at hull,and rule(also her son in law) was merely a puppet for her.He took the flack for her every time.She refsed to sell to Adam Pearson as far back as 2002 bu she was quick to flee,when the sh** was about to hit the fan.
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| Ask agar why he brought long straight back into the hull team after a long injury lay off,when he didn't want to? Kath didn't want a player on a huge salary sat in the stands,at all costs! Kath ran the show at hull,and rule(also her son in law) was merely a puppet for her.He took the flack for her every time.She refsed to sell to Adam Pearson as far back as 2002 bu she was quick to flee,when the sh** was about to hit the fan.
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "Ask agar why he brought long straight back into the hull team after a long injury lay off,when he didn't want to? Kath didn't want a player on a huge salary sat in the stands,at all costs! Kath ran the show at hull,and rule(also her son in law) was merely a puppet for her.He took the flack for her every time.She refsed to sell to Adam Pearson as far back as 2002 bu she was quick to flee,when the sh** was about to hit the fan.'"
So all your woes weren't Agar's fault after all, but Uncle Kath's?
Seriously, you need to move on; perhaps your New Year Resolution could be to avoid thinking about or mentioning Richard Agar ever again, other than to congratulate him when he takes WTW into the 8 next year?
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| Quote: bren2k "So all your woes weren't Agar's fault after all, but Uncle Kath's?
Seriously, you need to move on; perhaps your New Year Resolution could be to avoid thinking about or mentioning Richard Agar ever again, other than to congratulate him when he takes WTW into the 8 next year?'"
Think you lot should remember all this when you are shouting for his sacking later in the season.Agar was another yes man for kath,nothing more!! Hull fans have been wanting rid of agar since end of 2009 season,due to the dire,boring tactics he uses,and the weak excuses for defeats.I backed him to the hilt during his time with us,but things never changed,and the board were more interested in profit rather than any sort of success.We hull fans are more than ecstatic with our new owner and head coach,and a huge difference on the field is a certainty.
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| If there is one team I want to finish above this year it's Hull, just to shut these Agar hating Hull fans up! If they fail to finish above last seasons position who will they point the finger at then?
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "Agar was another yes man for kath,nothing more!! '"
Sorry for barging in but I have just noticed this.( I come in peace )
I fail to see how Hull fans can argue in 2 directions.Either Kath Hetherington ordered Richard Agar to play particular players as mentioned on the previous page OR he is a yes man ? Make up your mind.( Not dissimilar to the allegations of goings-on at Barrow over recent seasons )
I may have missed this since the news was made public BUT,was the chief exec.Rule or the conditioner ever suspended by Hull ? Or,despite the 'state of mind' campaign - was a player left to hang out to dry on his own when clearly the deliberate cover up is the more serious matter ?
If so it is pretty poor from the previous regime and then for the Hull fans to worship Pearson it reflects badly on him that he bought/took over a club and failed to take measures to safeguard a player - surely part of the transaction as he certainly didn't purchase the stadium as part of the deal.
When did Pearson obtain the facts and why,if he knew the facts,allow Rule to resign without any action being taken against him - he was an employee for however long the length of time between the Pearson takeover and the resignation.
At what point did the conditioner just walk away ?
It seems to have been very poorly handled.
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "You replied directly to my post and had somehow misconstrued what I'd said so I corrected you!'"
I replied to the subject you posted on (Kath Hetherington) and didn't misconstrue what you said at all, I've also read the article and didn't need any correction from you. My comment was make on the subject of the Chairperson of Hull FC about whom you were referring to, re: the article.
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| Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "Sorry for barging in but I have just noticed this.( I come in peace )
I fail to see how Hull fans can argue in 2 directions.Either Kath Hetherington ordered Richard Agar to play particular players as mentioned on the previous page OR he is a yes man ? Make up your mind.( Not dissimilar to the allegations of goings-on at Barrow over recent seasons )'"
Agree, what is it then, either Kath ran the show and Agar was just a yes man, or Agar ran the show and the mistakes made were on his own terms because if it's the first I fail to see where all the Agar bashing comes from. If Kath wasn't allowing Agar full control of the team like the Hull fans keep saying , the amount of hate this guy gets is totally unjustified imo.
I also agree with Deehell, a part from Cas if there's one team I want to smash this year it is now Hull, never was particularly bothered about them before but now, it's different.
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "Agree, what is it then, either Kath ran the show and Agar was just a yes man, or Agar ran the show and the mistakes made were on his own terms because if it's the first I fail to see where all the Agar bashing comes from. If Kath wasn't allowing Agar full control of the team like the Hull fans keep saying , the [iamount of hate this guy gets is totally unjustified imo.[/i
I also agree with Deehell, a part from Cas if there's one team I want to smash this year it is now Hull, never was particularly bothered about them before but now, it's different.'"
In november we had a fans forum,which was attended by Gentle,McCrae and Pearson.Us fans were more than shocked to hear Pearson publicly state that along with Kath,Agar was instrumental in leeds signing Luke Briscoe from ourselves.Not very professional of a head coach to push one of his young players in the direction of one of our main rivals is it? I'm quite certain that if this was you're club you would be up in arms wanting to know why,and also i don't think Glover would be happy either! These revelations from our new owner came out after he had signed a contract at wakefield.I wonder how Glover felt after finding out? He obviously wouldn't say things publicly,but i reckon after that and now the drugs fiasco,he must have twitchy feet? Time will tell if Kath and Agar are to be questioned by the rfl over the Gleeson affair?
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