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| and don't forget Finn will be on coaching staff too
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| Great post's by everyone & I think correct about a designated defence coach. We looked tighter in defence with Kear concentrating on that aspect. When Kear left the club stated that Gilmore worked very close with Kear & the players so I am happy to think give Gilmore a chance !
Just to add to this overall discussion & next season !! All the NRL coaches in super league have stated that they, they're teams are going to get fitter, much fitter in the close/pre season. We were at our most fitness pre-season with Brian Smith & Chester benefitted. Since then we have not been as fit & especially for 80 minutes BUT we have played far better attacking rugby ??
I know most people think we are fit enough but can we play at the level of the grand final teams, consistently ??
This we must do in order to be top four next !!
Up the Trin - Trin for ever, better seasons to come !!
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| Dont often agree with you vastman but on this i agree poaching was with uswhen we were scarce of quality made him look good
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| I think we need a attacking coach- at times last year our attack inside the opps 20 was terrible.
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| What about Barry Eaton who was assistant to McDermott at Leeds. He did a lot of the good work behind the scenes when they won there grand finals?
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| Did Poching have much say in the move to Leeds, especially given at that time the financial state the club were in back then.
Didn't we, only a few months prior to losing him, and up terminating several players contracts over a certain age, due to financial irregularities.
I do agree though that at the time, he was a good player, and was a significant loss, but we have had some better players since.
May not be a bad about as defence coach, it was the biggest asset of his game, and he and Chessie have worked together before
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| Quote: Outwood Trinity "Did Poching have much say in the move to Leeds, especially given at that time the financial state the club were in back then.
Didn't we, only a few months prior to losing him, and up terminating several players contracts over a certain age, due to financial irregularities.
I do agree though that at the time, he was a good player, and was a significant loss, but we have had some better players since.
May not be a bad about as defence coach, it was the biggest asset of his game, and he and Chessie have worked together before'"
Whether he had much say I don’t know but there was no fee.
However Poching arrived as a no name from Hunter Mariners the year after the Pearman crash and wasn’t part of that,
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| Quote: vastman "Whether he had much say I don’t know but there was no fee.
However Poching arrived as a no name from Hunter Mariners the year after the Pearman crash and wasn’t part of that,'"
Pretty sure Poching signed up for the first season in SL with Shane Kenward, Adrian Brunker, Steve and Frank Watene et al. I did a few weeks of work experience at the time and recall chatting to him. Top player, nice guy, not sure about his coaching credentials.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Pretty sure Poching signed up for the first season in SL with Shane Kenward, Adrian Brunker, Steve and Frank Watene et al. I did a few weeks of work experience at the time and recall chatting to him. Top player, nice guy, not sure about his coaching credentials.'"
That is quite correct khlav
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Pretty sure Poching signed up for the first season in SL with Shane Kenward, Adrian Brunker, Steve and Frank Watene et al. I did a few weeks of work experience at the time and recall chatting to him. Top player, nice guy, not sure about his coaching credentials.'"
YEah think your right, they were confusing times.
He may be a nice guy but I’ve would i wouldnt play poker with him!
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| Don’t know why we are bagging a guy that was a good servant to the club during his stay. I recall him speaking passionately about the club when he received an award at the end of his last season at the club, I think Harbin was still with us & he said Poching had played that year whilst needing an op for a double hernia! Poching said after he left that he thought he’d see his career out at Wakey, but the offer from Leeds came out of the blue & was too good to turn down. Adrian Vowles also signed for Leeds at that time & I suspect he loved his time at Cas but also couldn’t refuse the lure of Headingley.
Anyway if Chester wants him at the club I’m cool with that, if not & I’m presuming Poching still lives in Wakey then perhaps they just enjoy drinking latte together?
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| Quote: homme vaste "Wow because I asked a question I am now obsessed with poaching? You have some serious issues
I'm of the opinion that Warrington started to go off the rails when Poaching left. However, I think the folk from Yorkshire may argue that it was more to do with his replacement, Richard Agar.
Either way, I wouldn't say no to him returning to the Halliwell Jones for a second stint as assistant coach.
I can understand the perspective of a different view should he have left Belle Vue under a cloud. As an aside, it was mooted that Monaghan was lined up to be an assistant to Tony Smith before he retired, but that never materialised. Strange how the two clubs have been linked recently.
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| Poching was with us for the start of our 1st Super League campaign as I remember him being man of the match in a pre season friendly at home to Batley. He had played against us for Hunslet in our promotion season the year before.
Regardless of who he played alongside I rate him for who he played against. Regularly stood out against many of the top sides. His hit on Sean Long at home v Saints will remain in my memory for ever. Long in a heap, Willie picks the loose ball up and scoots between the sticks. Very similar to Mike Lampkowski.
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| Quote: Lockers700 "Don’t know why we are bagging a guy that was a good servant to the club during his stay. I recall him speaking passionately about the club when he received an award at the end of his last season at the club, I think Harbin was still with us & he said Poching had played that year whilst needing an op for a double hernia! Poching said after he left that he thought he’d see his career out at Wakey, but the offer from Leeds came out of the blue & was too good to turn down. Adrian Vowles also signed for Leeds at that time & I suspect he loved his time at Cas but also couldn’t refuse the lure of Headingley.
Anyway if Chester wants him at the club I’m cool with that, if not & I’m presuming Poching still lives in Wakey then perhaps they just enjoy drinking latte together?'"
It's not bagging it's a fact - Poching did not hang around. He was a good player and a good coach apparantly but this idea that he was a loyal servent to the club is a myth. Poching looked after himself which is fine because that's what most of us do, it's only when we try and claim more that I get annoyed which isn't Pochings fault.
If you want loyalty look at TJ or Fifita, both could have taken the coin ages ago but for whatever reason decided to stay. If loyalty exists in RL any more these are better example imo.
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| Quote: vastman "It's not bagging it's a fact - Poching did not hang around. He was a good player and a good coach apparantly but this idea that he was a loyal servent to the club is a myth. Poching looked after himself which is fine because that's what most of us do, it's only when we try and claim more that I get annoyed which isn't Pochings fault.
If you want loyalty look at TJ or Fifita, both could have taken the coin ages ago but for whatever reason decided to stay. If loyalty exists in RL any more these are better example imo.'"
He didn’t hang around, I never said he did, he accepted an offer that was too good to turn down. He’s a professional sportsmen with no ties to the club. Players who have been developed by clubs since they were kids are the kind I would like to see some loyalty shown by. Anyway I never said he was a loyal servant, I said he was a good servant during his time at the club
The club is in a much better position now, thus it’s easier to be loyal. They’d have both probably been flogged back then anyway!
For the record before you bag me, I think it’s great that TJ & Fifita are still with us as well as all the other players we have retained, but even though I’m sure they are both great guys, it’s been easier due to the structure put in place by Mr Carter.
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