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| You only have to look at the negative attitudes of some of our own fans to realise why it's so easy for Mildred to run with these negative preconceived notions. If the clubs own fans are negative then it projects the club in a negative way so why would you possibly expect an out of touch hack like Mildred to be any different.
If I were MC I'd walk away from this club because when he reads what some post on here or witnesses some of the hysterical over reaction on here one game into the season he must wonder why he bothers - I certainly do.
If any other club had signed some of the talent we have closed season people like Belly would be wetting themselves especially if it were Cas - a group of fans who know how to be positive even when it's beyond all reason.
I wonder sometimes whether the doom mongers really think about the damage they do. Apart from hitting ST sales because any hype the club try and do is instantly undermined it takes the pressure off the players to perform.
I don't care what people say players read these forums and they read Twitter and Facebook. Nobody likes being written off and despite this bizarre notion that it somehow spurs them on it actually just de-motivates the vast majority of them. Most players are just young men who can play a bit but if nobody expect them to win or even perform then human nature being what it is kicks in and they won't - they are beaten before they start.
However most are happy to spend what positivity they possess bigging up our biggest rival CAS so as far as I'm concerned Mildred is well within his rights.
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| Every season he tips us at bottom of the table.
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| Quote: wakeytrin "Every season he tips us at bottom of the table.'"
And every season he is wrong - and will be again this season. I just think it's about time he actually gave up on his predictions or at least put a bit more effort into it.
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| Quote: vastman "You only have to look at the negative attitudes of some of our own fans to realise why it's so easy for Mildred to run with these negative preconceived notions. If the clubs own fans are negative then it projects the club in a negative way so why would you possibly expect an out of touch hack like Mildred to be any different.
If I were MC I'd walk away from this club because when he reads what some post on here or witnesses some of the hysterical over reaction on here one game into the season he must wonder why he bothers - I certainly do.
If any other club had signed some of the talent we have closed season people like Belly would be wetting themselves especially if it were Cas - a group of fans who know how to be positive even when it's beyond all reason.
I wonder sometimes whether the doom mongers really think about the damage they do. Apart from hitting ST sales because any hype the club try and do is instantly undermined it takes the pressure off the players to perform.
I don't care what people say players read these forums and they read Twitter and Facebook. Nobody likes being written off and despite this bizarre notion that it somehow spurs them on it actually just de-motivates the vast majority of them. Most players are just young men who can play a bit but if nobody expect them to win or even perform then human nature being what it is kicks in and they won't - they are beaten before they start.
However most are happy to spend what positivity they possess bigging up our biggest rival CAS so as far as I'm concerned Mildred is well within his rights.
Any player whose performance is affected by a fans message board should probably find a different profession in my opinion. Or stop reading them.
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| Quote: vastman "You only have to look at the negative attitudes of some of our own fans to realise why it's so easy for Mildred to run with these negative preconceived notions. If the clubs own fans are negative then it projects the club in a negative way so why would you possibly expect an out of touch hack like Mildred to be any different
If I were MC I'd walk away from this club because when he reads what some post on here or witnesses some of the hysterical over reaction on here one game into the season he must wonder why he bothers - I certainly do.
If any other club had signed some of the talent we have closed season people like Belly would be wetting themselves especially if it were Cas - a group of fans who know how to be positive even when it's beyond all reason.
I wonder sometimes whether the doom mongers really think about the damage they do. Apart from hitting ST sales because any hype the club try and do is instantly undermined it takes the pressure off the players to perform.
I don't care what people say players read these forums and they read Twitter and Facebook. Nobody likes being written off and despite this bizarre notion that it somehow spurs them on it actually just de-motivates the vast majority of them. Most players are just young men who can play a bit but if nobody expect them to win or even perform then human nature being what it is kicks in and they won't - they are beaten before they start.
However most are happy to spend what positivity they possess bigging up our biggest rival CAS so as far as I'm concerned Mildred is well within his rights.
Well if a chairman walks away because a few fans are being negative then he's in the wrong game.
Imagine being the chairman of a struggling football club, if he listens and takes offence to a couple of players getting bagged then there's no point at all. Tens of thousands of disgruntled fans in football. Only a handful at Wakefield Trinity.
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| Quote: vastman "You only have to look at the negative attitudes of some of our own fans to realise why it's so easy for Mildred to run with these negative preconceived notions. If the clubs own fans are negative then it projects the club in a negative way so why would you possibly expect an out of touch hack like Mildred to be any different.
If I were MC I'd walk away from this club because when he reads what some post on here or witnesses some of the hysterical over reaction on here one game into the season he must wonder why he bothers - I certainly do.
If any other club had signed some of the talent we have closed season people like Belly would be wetting themselves especially if it were Cas - a group of fans who know how to be positive even when it's beyond all reason.
I wonder sometimes whether the doom mongers really think about the damage they do. Apart from hitting ST sales because any hype the club try and do is instantly undermined it takes the pressure off the players to perform.
I don't care what people say players read these forums and they read Twitter and Facebook. Nobody likes being written off and despite this bizarre notion that it somehow spurs them on it actually just de-motivates the vast majority of them. Most players are just young men who can play a bit but if nobody expect them to win or even perform then human nature being what it is kicks in and they won't - they are beaten before they start.
However most are happy to spend what positivity they possess bigging up our biggest rival CAS so as far as I'm concerned Mildred is well within his rights.
I agree to a certain respect as far as the constant doom and gloomers but every team has their negative supporters, from Leeds, Sants, Wire, Hull, Widnes and Hudds, we don't hold the monopoly on that account. Just because a tiny handful are like that, it shouldn't affect players performance or the Chairman, simply because it is such a small segment.
From what I've read on here and Facebook the vast majority haven't written us off at all, quite the opposite. Just about everyone has us in the top 8 and above, even some of the doom merchants. I think the lowest a fan as placed us that I've seen is Belly putting us 11th. As far as I can see this is the most positive as a group of supporters we've been in quite a while.
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| Doesn't he just look at what the bookies are quoting and wax lyrically???
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| The exciting thing about this season is that I think a team can finish in the bottom 4 and have played well, couple of real stand out teams, a couple of teams who have one or two stand out players, other than that I hate to say it but it looks like a very competive league. By the way Vasty just because in my opinion looking at the squads I think that on paper, without a player getting injured, without knowing which team has generated a great team spirit and which hasn't , that we will finish in the bottom four does not make me negative, its just my opinion. Remember finishing in the bottom four in the top league in the country means we are very high up on the UK RL pyramid and that can be celebrated.
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| Why does anyone still give Millward a platform, he's been irrelevant for years and hasn't got a clue about the relative strengths and weaknesses of English teams
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| This message board is absolute minority snapshot of the total number of Wakefield supporters. If anybody thinks the few that post on here are in the majority are well mistaken.
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| Who cares what people predict? They're seldom right. at the start of every winter some numpties predict the most severe winter for years, as they did for this one - well wrong again!
Millward was a failure really, so why listen to him, Schofield is another, (overrated as a player in my opinion but people again get upset by his comments)
Until we prove we are genuine and consistent top 8 material, we are easy meat to predict bottom.
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| Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "This message board is absolute minority snapshot of the total number of Wakefield supporters. If anybody thinks the few that post on here are in the majority are well mistaken.'"
Don't get your meaning. Surely it's a representative sample of the general support? Positive, negative and apathetic. Probably the latter are the least likely to bother posting?
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Don't get your meaning. Surely it's a representative sample of the general support? Positive, negative and apathetic. Probably the latter are the least likely to bother posting?'"
I get what he means. Ateotd this forum has about 20-30 regular posters at best, that's a tiny sample size of Trinity support and I'm not sure it's totally representative. Most of the younger supporters don't come on here, they tend to be on Facebook if they post anywhere at all and are generally more upbeat imo.
Saying all that, like I mentioned before I'm yet to see anyone really talk down our chances this season on this forum (much like it is across all social media) and I think the vibe is generally good. I think most would agree we're in a good place as a club, that's leaving the Stadium issues to one side.
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| Quote: Trinity1315 "Who cares what people predict? They're seldom right. at the start of every winter some numpties predict the most severe winter for years, as they did for this one - well wrong again!
Millward was a failure really, so why listen to him, Schofield is another, (overrated as a player in my opinion but people again get upset by his comments)
Until we prove we are genuine and consistent top 8 material, we are easy meat to predict bottom.'"
I love to come on here and read through the threads as there seems to be much more sense spoken than on most of the other boards. But the comment above about Gary Schofield being overrated completely bemuses me. You must not have seen this guy play the game. I am as anti Leeds as most Cas/Wakey/name your team fan but if Gary Schofield was one thing, It wasn't overrated. There is not a 6 in the world game that could lace his boots.
FWIW I predict you will finish 6/7/8th depending on injuries (like all of us). Good luck for the season and here is to a couple of cracking derby's.
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| In the pre-season preview in this weeks League Express, they are predicting us to finish 11th with Widnes bottom.
More motivation methinks !!
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