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Quote: MUTLEY CAT "i can understand folk on here knocking JD s form as the standards over the years as been very good but to question the mans attitude IMHO is just plain bonkers'"

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Quote: crowt123 "last week at saints when cunningham went over davey to score i saw jd walking away shaking his head. tonight i saw jd shouting and carrying on from the first 10 mins . is it time for a rest maybe? is age catching up?
i don't see much encouragement from the captain whereas brough, bj and morrison are very supportive to the younger one's.

shoot me down but it is only a thought.
Thought i would give this thread a miss but can't help myself, i have seen this a few times from Broughy this season to be fair to him but overall your having a a laugh mate.

Sometimes players need a telling off, if they have the players respect then its not a problem.

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JD doesn't look fit to me. Not sure if he's still finding fitness after the off season or struggling to get going but he doesn't seem the same thus far.

Re the Captain situation JD's never really been much of a talker. He leads more by example, but that said I was very disappointed to see him walking aroung with his head down when he should have been gathering the troops.

I have trust and faith that JD will come good but at the moment something doesn't quite seem right with the lad.

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IN my honest oppinion jd is long in the tooth and should have gone last year hes been carried by the club now

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Quote: MUTLEY CAT "i can understand folk on here knocking JD s form as the standards over the years as been very good but to question the mans attitude IMHO is just plain bonkers'"


I've been very strong at times with my criticism of JD, but I have never accused him of giving everything in him on the pitch. He's been a great servant to the club and will live long in our memories once he hangs up his boots.

BUT....

His attitude on the pitch as captain is a lot different. The shouting behind the sticks against the Giants is something that could have been useful in countless games over the last couple of seasons - but one of the few (if not the only) times he does it is when we're in the middle of such a shocking performance when the game has already been lost. WHAT'S THE POINT IN THAT???!!!

IMHO he's only getting his place in the 17 because JK says he'll be captain for however long they're both at Trinity. JD does add great value as a squad player to provide back up to a first choice 17 - he just isn't the player he was & shouldn't be the first name on the team sheet any longer if the whole squad is fully fit.

I said it before the season started & I'll say it again now - Tesco should be captain & the first choice back 3 should be Tesco, Fergy & Johnson. Hendo has been putting in some great performances so far this year and he can fill the bench with 2 props (that's TWO PROPS Mr Kear!!!) and a hooker/half-back. JD comes into the reckoning when we have injuries to the back row, but ONLY when we injuries.

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Quote: RDM "I've been very strong at times with my criticism of JD, but I have never accused him of giving everything in him on the pitch. He's been a great servant to the club and will live long in our memories once he hangs up his boots.

BUT....

His attitude on the pitch as captain is a lot different. The shouting behind the sticks against the Giants is something that could have been useful in countless games over the last couple of seasons - but one of the few (if not the only) times he does it is when we're in the middle of such a shocking performance when the game has already been lost. WHAT'S THE POINT IN THAT???!!!

IMHO he's only getting his place in the 17 because JK says he'll be captain for however long they're both at Trinity. JD does add great value as a squad player to provide back up to a first choice 17 - he just isn't the player he was & shouldn't be the first name on the team sheet any longer if the whole squad is fully fit.

I said it before the season started & I'll say it again now - Tesco should be captain & the first choice back 3 should be Tesco, Fergy & Johnson. Hendo has been putting in some great performances so far this year and he can fill the bench with 2 props (that's TWO PROPS Mr Kear!!!) and a hooker/half-back. JD comes into the reckoning when we have injuries to the back row, but ONLY when we injuries.'"


Yeah like when Johnson & King are injured

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Cant go along with the theory that JD is past it. Every player bar none had a pityful performance (bar Richard Moore). JD is a quality player.

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Quote: worksopwildcat "Cant go along with the theory that JD is past it. Every player bar none had a pityful performance (bar Richard Moore). JD is a quality player.'"



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I don't buy in to this jd bad attitude thing. I don't think anyone can question his attitude after what the man has done for this club and also the Adam watene fund. He may not be in the best of form but hopefully this will be temporary. It will sum the man up if he goes out on Friday and plays a blinder

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Quote: Uptoncat "I don't buy in to this jd bad attitude thing. I don't think anyone can question his attitude after what the man has done for this club and also the Adam watene fund. He may not be in the best of form but hopefully this will be temporary. It will sum the man up if he goes out on Friday and plays a blinder'"


eusa_wall.gif No he's played badly sack the guy icon_surprised.gifops: fans go on about respect and loyalty and then turn after a bad game.

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Quote: BIGAL1 "eusa_wall.gif No he's played badly sack the guy
Quite right Al.

What we've got is what we've got. Apart from Davey we had every man standing play in that game last week - and they ALL contributed to a poor performance. There were several who tried really hard but nothing came off, there were some who, on reflection, may well think they could have put more in; pretty much all of them seemed low in energy levels, which may be something to do with the training regime etc... who knows.

What we do know is that, with the exception of a couple or so forced changes, the same players will take the field on Friday. I boo'd them on Saturday - as I thought their performance was unprofessional and lacked respect for the paying public, and because we know they can play so much better. But it will be business as usual this week and I expect them to do everything they can to put right the wrongs - although I'm not sure we can do all that in one week.

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Quote: Uptoncat "I don't think anyone can question his attitude after what the man has done for this club and also the Adam watene fund.'"


Players shouldn't get picked for that reason though, not if they are unfit/out-of-form/whatever is up with him.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Players shouldn't get picked for that reason though, not if they are unfit/out-of-form/whatever is up with him.'"


and equally players shouldn't be dropped when they have outstanding service and then have one bad game.

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Quote: PopTart "and equally players shouldn't be dropped when they have outstanding service and then have one bad game.'"


Too true PT.

Loyalty and respect have to work both ways even if some like to quote it "when it suits"

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Not slagging JD cos I like him a lot, but his form has been tepid all season (i know its only 5 games old d040.gif ) But I just think he needs a rest, and his form will return....

Trouble is for JK, he has nobody to replace him with unless he fetch's young Trout into the second row and plays Tesco/Hendo/Latu at loose? People should remember also that for a reasonable chunk of Saturday's game JD was being played as 'a running 6' after BJ went off, which is not his natural position by any stretch......and possibly affected his defensive positioning at times eusa_think.gif

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