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| Quote: Miro "I don't know, common sense cannot be measured by maths.
I'm assuming you know the demographic of those surveyed? Or are you just relying on the pollsters say so. Not that it matters a hoot because.....
Now, let me think. 1,512 Americans have heard of Bill Gates so it follows does it ? that a majority of over 331 million, that's 331,600,000 have also heard of Bill Gates?
Yet 600,000 signatures on a petition mean nothing, according to you, because it's a tiny percentage of the US population.
No sorry, gotta use good old Yorkshire common sense.
I think these polling firms are stealing a living.'"
You are aware that over 120,000 people signed the "Boaty Mcboatface Politician", which is a significantly greater percentage of the UK population than the 600,000 Americans than you are talking about.
The internet and social media are great platforms for stoking an interest and over blowing certain issues.
Maybe we should get onto that one, after all, the views of the "general public" seemed to be ignored there.
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| Quote: PopTart "Make your mind up.
You are just trolling now. Either get back to your point or leave the thread alone.'"
Yes sir, so sorry sir.
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| So we finish v Salford. Can we have a thread clear out after that please?
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You are aware that over 120,000 people signed the "Boaty Mcboatface Politician", which is a significantly greater percentage of the UK population than the 600,000 Americans than you are talking about.
The internet and social media are great platforms for stoking an interest and over blowing certain issues.
Maybe we should get onto that one, after all, the views of the "general public" seemed to be ignored there.'"
Ah, I see. 600,000 US citizens concerned about there own welfare and the welfare of their children regarding vaccines can be dismissed due to the above. Well, it's not surprising you are just as dismissive that you can compare those with this "joke".
Yes, it's a small percentage of the US population so that's ok then'
Would you care to expand upon these "over blown certain issues" that deserve to be ignored. God forbid you should have a child damaged by a vaccine and if that happens I can guarantee you will not want your concerns to be dismissed by anyone, let alone tarnished by being associated with certain social media and internet sites.
For someone who, on the surface, cares so much about covid maybe I am surprised at you.
Now, how about expanding on those "over blown issues". so that we can assess whether that petition to investigate vaccine issues re Gates was also a joke.
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| Quote: charlie63wildcat "So we finish v Salford. Can we have a thread clear out after that please?'"
22,644 views, I don't think those advertising on RL Fans would be too happy.
Anyway, why would you want a clear out? Just ignore what you don't want to see.
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| Quote: coco the fullback "I've explained the difference in significance in each case. If you refuse to accept the sampling techniques of a world renowned polling company and feel that an effective 1% sample promoted by multiple conspiracy websites is more significant, there's nothing more I can help you with.'"
Well, all I cans say is you have certainly opened my eyes upon this polling fandango and I'm just going to have to take your word for it.
1,512 represents 331,000,000 people, who would have thought it?
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| Quote: Miro "Ah, I see. 600,000 US citizens concerned about there own welfare and the welfare of their children regarding vaccines can be dismissed due to the above. Well, it's not surprising you are just as dismissive that you can compare those with this "joke".
Yes, it's a small percentage of the US population so that's ok then'
Would you care to expand upon these "over blown certain issues" that deserve to be ignored. God forbid you should have a child damaged by a vaccine and if that happens I can guarantee you will not want your concerns to be dismissed by anyone, let alone tarnished by being associated with certain social media and internet sites.
For someone who, on the surface, cares so much about covid maybe I am surprised at you.
Now, how about expanding on those "over blown issues". so that we can assess whether that petition to investigate vaccine issues re Gates was also a joke.'"
Its extremely concerning that you feign concern should one of my children be affected by a vaccine and yet have total disregard for people affected by deaths due to Covid19 - HYPOCRITE.
My example was purely to illustrate the ease in which numbers can be encouraged to sign an on line petition but, you chose to take me literally.
You seem to look rather foolish now, dont you..
As for vaccines, as a parent I did agonise about the MMR vaccine which some people, perhaps like yourself, told us was dangerous.
Many people didn't immunise their kids and as a result, a disease, which had been eradicated in the UK, has now returned.
Perhaps the scaremongerers and conspiracists on this issue are very proud of their efforts, just as you may be at some point in the future
Crack on with your quest
I know which horse I'm backing in this particular race and despite your many, many, inane ramblings, i'm still happy with my choice and hope that you are too.
But you keep looking
Perhaps we should start a list of countries that have followed a similar path to the UK but are now pretty much through the other side, with their population still not "controlled" and where nanbots haven't been injected.
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| I'm getting bored now. There is no point just sniping at each other.
Unless someone wants to make a new point we may as well end it.
I'm happy to discuss other covid related stuff but we haven't moved forward for the last few pages.
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| Quote: PopTart "I'm getting bored now. There is no point just sniping at each other.
Unless someone wants to make a new point we may as well end it.
I'm happy to discuss other covid related stuff but we haven't moved forward for the last few pages.'"
Agreed. But I just want to answer wrencat.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Its extremely concerning that you feign concern should one of my children be affected by a vaccine and yet have total disregard for people affected by deaths due to Covid19 - HYPOCRITE.
My example was purely to illustrate the ease in which numbers can be encouraged to sign an on line petition but, you chose to take me literally.
Perhaps if you hadnt aimed your own fight at "everyone" who doesn't agree with you, there could have been a more reasoned discussion on here.
hope this helps.
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| Housing secretary refuses to answer question on economic impact of a second lockdown.
Taken from interview with Julia Hartley-Brewer on Talk Radio published and re-produced on YT 3rd November.
Please listen to this, make up your own minds. My kak handed transcript does not tell the half of it.
Housing secretary Robert Jenrick refused to answer Julia Hartley-Brewer's question on the economic impact of a second lockdown FOUR times.
He cannot produce a document showing they have made a damage assessment report because it appears they have not done one.
His repeated this answer “we are taking advice” did not answer the question therefore he had no facts or figures relating to the effects of the latest lockdown.
The minister said the “IC units are filling up.” Brewer disputed this and reminded him that statistics are readily available from the NHS to dispute his claim but still he carried on bluffing his way through the interview.
She repeatedly challenged him with available figures from the NHS in Liverpool for example showing there was absolutely no need for tier 3. Cases involving the over 60s have gone down in the previous three weeks yet he insisted they are going up.
“I don't know what figures you are quoting” he bleats so Julia gives him the website they are from
Corona virus.data .gov.co.uk The official government figures. Admitions to hospitals are going down, infections in the over 60s are going down yet he refuses to acknowledge his own governments figures.
She told him bluntly, “the reason you say we should go into lockdown is because figures are going up and I'm telling you they are not.”
“We took advice” he repeats over and over, Brewer reminds him that that advice is wrong.
How can you do this? She asks. “When it's destroying our economy.”
“Well, we didn't take this decision lightly” over and over. The stock answer to very direct questions.
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| Quote: Miro "Housing secretary refuses to answer question on economic impact of a second lockdown.
Taken from interview with Julia Hartley-Brewer on Talk Radio published and re-produced on YT 3rd November.
Please listen to this, make up your own minds. My kak handed transcript does not tell the half of it.
Housing secretary Robert Jenrick refused to answer Julia Hartley-Brewer's question on the economic impact of a second lockdown FOUR times.
He cannot produce a document showing they have made a damage assessment report because it appears they have not done one.
His repeated this answer “we are taking advise” did not answer the question therefore he had no facts or figures relating to the effects of the latest lockdown.
The minister said the “IC units are filling up.” Brewer disputed this and reminded him that statistics are readily available from the NHS to dispute his claim but still he carried on bluffing his way through the interview.
She repeatedly challenged him with available figures from the NHS in Liverpool for example showing there was absolutely no need for tier 3. Cases involving the over 60s have gone down in the previous three weeks yet he insisted they are going up.
“I don't know what figures you are quoting” he bleats so Julia gives him the website they are from
Corona virus.data .gov.co.uk The official government figures. Admitions to hospitals are going down, infections in the over 60s are going down yet he refuses to acknowledge his own governments figures.
She told him bluntly, “the reason you say we should go into lockdown is because figures are going up and I'm telling you they are not.”
“We took advice” he repeats over and over, Brewer reminds him that that advice is wrong.
How can you do this? She asks. “When it's destroying our economy.”
“Well, we didn't take this decision lightly” over and over. The stock answer to very direct questions.'"
I have also seen this interview, agree with everything you have said re this interview. That Man Jenrick, is an embarrassment when being interviewed, he wouldn’t even give a direct response to the question, would he be working from London, or his main residence, given his history of travel in the first lockdown.
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| Quote: Miro "Housing secretary refuses to answer question on economic impact of a second lockdown.
Taken from interview with Julia Hartley-Brewer on Talk Radio published and re-produced on YT 3rd November.
Please listen to this, make up your own minds. My kak handed transcript does not tell the half of it.
Housing secretary Robert Jenrick refused to answer Julia Hartley-Brewer's question on the economic impact of a second lockdown FOUR times.
He cannot produce a document showing they have made a damage assessment report because it appears they have not done one.
His repeated this answer “we are taking advice” did not answer the question therefore he had no facts or figures relating to the effects of the latest lockdown.
The minister said the “IC units are filling up.” Brewer disputed this and reminded him that statistics are readily available from the NHS to dispute his claim but still he carried on bluffing his way through the interview.
She repeatedly challenged him with available figures from the NHS in Liverpool for example showing there was absolutely no need for tier 3. Cases involving the over 60s have gone down in the previous three weeks yet he insisted they are going up.
“I don't know what figures you are quoting” he bleats so Julia gives him the website they are from
Corona virus.data .gov.co.uk The official government figures. Admitions to hospitals are going down, infections in the over 60s are going down yet he refuses to acknowledge his own governments figures.
She told him bluntly, “the reason you say we should go into lockdown is because figures are going up and I'm telling you they are not.”
“We took advice” he repeats over and over, Brewer reminds him that that advice is wrong.
How can you do this? She asks. “When it's destroying our economy.”
“Well, we didn't take this decision lightly” over and over. The stock answer to very direct questions.'"
I listened. Didn't get that at all.
He says the government have taken advise from economics advisors.
He isn't the guy who handles this so she was just hounding a guy who wasn't able to answer her questions.
He does 'refuse' to answer her. He gives her an answer she doesn't like so repeats it 4 times. It's hardly a ground breaking expose.
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| TalkRadio is the only mainstream channel that can at least be bothered to ask difficult questions of the so called "experts" and government officials.
There was a really good interview today with former Chief Scientific Officer of Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon that exposes this mess. He agrees with my analysis that the "pandemic" is essentially over.
Nice to finally hear someone talk sense for a change instead of listening to the scaremongering scientific advisors on BBC or Sly News. How on earth did the borthers grimm Whitty and Vallance even come up with modelling 4,000 deaths a day in the UK by December. The USA with 330 million people got no where near that during the peak back in April! Let them play with some toy train models in future as far as I'm concerned I wouldn't trust these two to run a bath.
PS Laughing non stop at the MSM and pollsters once again failing to predict anything accurately, they banged on for months about a Biden land slide. And once again they got it wrong. I'm beginning to think it was never about a prediction but good old fashioned electoral interference. A dirty tactic to get impressionable undecided voters to vote the "popular" democrats and try to put off Republican voters from going to the polls as it's a foregone conclusion. #DefundtheBBC
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