Really? I know a loss is crap and we haven't played well that past few games but even taking that into consideration London would have to win more than they have all season and us to not win another to over take considering their PD. Even hull KR would have to win another 4 to over take and us no more.

At this stage he's doing really well for me and better than the other backrowers, big carries that bend the defensive line, plenty of minutes, can tackle and is a constant offload threat.Not sure what you're on about with the end product comment tbh. Criticizing him for not dummying is hindsight imo it was just a poor pass, plus I thought his support runbner was too flat and bit close and credit to the Leeds player for not committing himself to the tackle.

fifita would have caused havoc near the line if he played but for me all it needed was players coming back on the angle at pace, or a set move.

Nilled at home against one of the bottom teams

Simply not good enough.

Worst performance of the last 3 seasons, that. A total embarrassment. No urgency, no idea from one pass to the next, clueless in attack, then when we do break through for a certain try, we pass it to their full back to go the length of the field. Tanginoa should rightly be having nightmares about that tonight! What on earth was he playing at?

Also disappointed with going for the 2 at only 0-4 down. Leeds were desperate for the points, not us. Going for 2 was just plain bizarre with all the possession we were having, especially missing it!

We also need to learn how to play without Fifita. It's so obvious he's missing, it's untrue.

Granted Hampshire didn't help at all. But I was right behind that play and could see exactly what was going to happen. Lohohea(sp) could too that why he stood to the side of him rather than in front to make the tackle.

I imagine he will get better, it's just a shame he's come in when the team are in poor form.

As an aside I do hate contract renewal time, too many players seem flat as though they're on their way out if the club and are struggling to get up for the game. We were second best again on enthusiasm and effort, as we have been for the past five or so games.

I agree with that and mentioned it a couple of weeks ago when the Salford Coach brought it up. We went through a similar dip last season around this time but luckily we had a near fully fit squad then.

My point was Shifty, some tough games coming up,and right at this moment we are creating nothing.

I agree we have injuries, but we do have what is our first choice 1,6,7 and 9 all in at the moment.

Momentum is big in sport, Leeds and Hull KR with recent wins,and trying to impress the new coach, we have some senior players at the moment that don't deserve to be in the 13.

We need to turn this round and fast

Chester just said that performance was good.

Tanginoa should be having nightmares? What about England, Brough, Miller, Hampshire, Ashurst and Randell?

Worst game I've seen in over 50 years of watching Wakefield. Two sides that created nothing at all and never looked like doing. Credit to Leeds simple rain weather game plan, where was Broughy getting us round the pitch apart from the first 10 minutes he disappeared after that.

Not what i heard from the one he made on the field, he practically repeated what most have said on here, wrong kind of RL, tried to find the killer pass too many times etc etc. but no lack of effort, that was about as positive as it got.

That was utter rubbish. No cohesion whatsoever and a lack of game nouse at crucial times. Too many senior players are underperforming. Miller is a headless chicken with no idea how to run a team. He seems to be the blue eyed boy, god only knows why, he plays well once every couple of months and to some that seems enough. England appears to have lost all impact and mobility and if Randall wants a lift to airport so he can sod off back to Australia i’ll pick him up in the morning. Oh and Chezzy, next time pick the winger on the wing rather than the ageing out and out centre. Injuries or not that team tonight should beat this Leeds team, they are poor. But they did the basics right, we went into idiot mode.

I don't think we were even that good.

Personally don't really believe in momentum, you hear it all the time in Rugby and especially Cricket, teams boss a few games and have momentum, then play rubbish the next few games, it makes no sense sometimes. i do believe in confidence and it takes time to build it up and it's very quick to sometimes lose it.

Brough, Hampshire and Miller all had shockers. Difficult to rank them separately.

Typical that we didn't take the early two on offer where as Leeds did twice.

Agar 1 Chester 0.