FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > New Stand |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 2776 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2019 | 6 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Will the new Stand be open for the Start of 2024 season? I ask because every time a handover date is estimated, it never happens. I saw somewhere on social media the latest handover date was the last week in November.
At the last shareholder meeting, JM confirmed there was a penalty clause for a delayed handover, and i did hear from a reliable source it was £10 thousand for each week delay. The official handover was way back in August for the Castleford game, that must be at least 13 weeks ago, £130 thousand owing so far from the developers,
A number of planned events in the new hospitality have already been cancelled, and I’ve not heard or seen any evidence that the internal part is completed or anywhere near completion. I wonder if we’ll get a refund on our stand tickets if we’re not satin there for the Bradford game, more compensation from the developers.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4236 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Club have announced that the Ashurst testimonial will be the East Stand opening event.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7003 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: dboy "Club have announced that the Ashurst testimonial will be the East Stand opening event.'"
The club also posted some photos of the inside area for events and it looked kitted out mostly.
If it’s true about the money for delay then that would go some way to paying for further improvements like the LED boards.
I’m sure it’s just finishing touches and probably signing off on certain things relating to health and safety/fire etc.
It’s not as simple as when it’s finished decoratively and structurally it’s ready to go. There will be a ton of handover documentation relating to health and safety, environmental, statutory inspections, insurance schedules etc for example.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 371 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2019 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Liquidated damages have to be proven - it’s not a straight cutting of a £10k cheque every week.
Normally the builder and client cut a deal on variations etc if relations are still cordial.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 36115 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Will the new Stand be open for the Start of 2024 season? I ask because every time a handover date is estimated, it never happens. I saw somewhere on social media the latest handover date was the last week in November.
At the last shareholder meeting, JM confirmed there was a penalty clause for a delayed handover, and i did hear from a reliable source it was £10 thousand for each week delay. The official handover was way back in August for the Castleford game, that must be at least 13 weeks ago, £130 thousand owing so far from the developers,
A number of planned events in the new hospitality have already been cancelled, and I’ve not heard or seen any evidence that the internal part is completed or anywhere near completion. I wonder if we’ll get a refund on our stand tickets if we’re not satin there for the Bradford game, more compensation from the developers.'"
Think you’re being extremely negative to say the least. Delays are not unknown in construction and this one is far from extreme. I’m certain you’re safe for next season by some way.
Reasons for delays can be many fold. It could be safety issues etc. But my guess would be that after Ellis took over he may well have decided to change the odd thing, up certain specs most likely. Hence the delay.
I’m not sure what you mean regarding the inside. There is a full film on the website of the fully fitted restaurant.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 36115 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: BackSeatCoach "Liquidated damages have to be proven - it’s not a straight cutting of a £10k cheque every week.
Normally the builder and client cut a deal on variations etc if relations are still cordial.'"
As you say it’s not that simple, not all delays are the developers fault.
The most likely outcome would be some sort of favour. Something like tidying up the North stand rear, rather than cash.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 3688 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2015 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7003 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/new-wakefield-trinity-owner-matt-ellis-opens-up-on-what-makes-him-tick-as-he-taps-into-business-success-4446621?fbclid
Sounded interesting that. Could offer a unique viewing experience and the chance to offer some increased capacity.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1444 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2020 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Our new owner is unbelievable.
Even in the 60 ‘s I cannot recall such positivity coming from the club.he seems to be totally in harmony with the supporters.
Looking forward to the ride ahead!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20430 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: BackSeatCoach "Liquidated damages have to be proven - it’s not a straight cutting of a £10k cheque every week.
Normally the builder and client cut a deal on variations etc if relations are still cordial.'"
Goes without saying but it will very much centre around the nature of the contract used to procure the works and who has contractually signed up to take the risk.
I believe some delays were the result of discovery of asbestos during the demolition phase and others significant ones were due to the labour issues, particularly bricklaying resource.
The contractor was involved with the project from a very early stage, however they did walk away for a while during the development phase so I would think the terms to get them back to the table would be fairly low risk on their side. I do know the MD of the contractor has done a number of stadium facilities in the past and lost money on them so again I would think the contract would have been traditional rather than design and build meaning the club would take on most of the risk.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2226 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2226 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: LyndsayGill "A bit like the one at The Watersheddings when Oldham played there, only better.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 21040 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote: jonh "Goes without saying but it will very much centre around the nature of the contract used to procure the works and who has contractually signed up to take the risk.
I believe some delays were the result of discovery of asbestos during the demolition phase and others significant ones were due to the labour issues, particularly bricklaying resource.
The contractor was involved with the project from a very early stage, however they did walk away for a while during the development phase so I would think the terms to get them back to the table would be fairly low risk on their side. I do know the MD of the contractor has done a number of stadium facilities in the past and lost money on them so again I would think the contract would have been traditional rather than design and build meaning the club would take on most of the risk.'"
The contract was a fixed price. To protect us from long delays and increased costs.
But I don't suppose revenue loss for a delay is quite so simple as its hard to prove what was lost.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 3688 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2015 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Trojan Horse "Sounded interesting that. Could offer a unique viewing experience and the chance to offer some increased capacity.'"
He used the phrase, hospitality view.
Could that be an indication that the hospitality boxes could be moving from the south side to there, freeing up space in the south end, for development down the line
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7003 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "He used the phrase, hospitality view.
Could that be an indication that the hospitality boxes could be moving from the south side to there, freeing up space in the south end, for development down the line'"
I would imagine what we have at the south will remain and that the West will be worked on as a new project.
Moving costs for the south and foundation for the boxes would be high and then you’ve the added pressure and cost of doing the south (Effectively upgrading 2 stands at once).
There’s nothing wrong with the south and it generates income too. More likely just do some works on the west. It doesn’t need to be top class state of the art really either but certainly something practice and able to generate a better experience long term and some extra finance.
The south will be a long term plan I would envisage. Eventually in the next 5-10 years I would imagine a new stand with hospitality glass boxes along the top/back will be how that goes. It wouldn’t need all the rooms and facilities as they’re all in the new east stand.
|
|
|
|
|
|