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| Quote: vastman "Ok, if we’re going to be reasonable.
Rightly or wrongly Ted had a reputation, Carter doesn’t.
The club was bust at the time so the money was to plug a gap as far as most were concerned.
BV is now happening, for real, an advantage Ted never had.
In other words there is far more to invest in now than there was then.
To a lot of Trinity fans 1k is beyond them. However to some it’s well within their capability.
We have maybe 2000 full on fans. I’m absolutely certain that by the national average I’d say about 20% of those could afford 1k. That’s 400 so 100 from that is possible.
As stated, it depends how it’s sold.'"
Totally agree..
The bottom line is there’s no sugar daddy coming over the hill to rescue the financial situation..
It’s down to us….. that’s Michael Carter, John Minards, the people who work at the club, some as volunteers and us the fans all pulling in the same direction with a positive attitude..
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You'd know old love.
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| Quote: Redscat "
No he doesn't, I read it wrong, you win some you lose some
Edited.....just accepted it and move on. No need for the extras. It will only start another fight. PT
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| Quote: Belle Vue "I’m not having a go at you Redscat..
My mate had some shares and says it wasn’t the best organised idea.
The people in charge now in my opinion are running the club in a sensible financial manor. If they were interested in an idea of shares or whatever then I would have confidence that they would use whatever funds might be raised and put some hem to good use.'"
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| Mackie has stuck it right up our kyber pass and it hurts mackie pay the bloody lot we were promised a new stadium but now where asking fans for money to redevelop the west terrace utta bull
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| Mackie has stuck it right up our kyber pass and it hurts mackie pay the bloody lot we were promised a new stadium but now where asking fans for money to redevelop the west terrace utta bull
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| Mackie has stuck it right up our kyber pass and it hurts mackie pay the bloody lot we were promised a new stadium but now where asking fans for money to redevelop the west terrace utta bull
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| Mackie has stuck it right up our kyber pass and it hurts mackie pay the bloody lot we were promised a new stadium but now where asking fans for money to redevelop the west terrace utta bull
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| Quote: cosmicat "Mackie has stuck it right up our kyber pass and it hurts mackie pay the bloody lot we were promised a new stadium but now where asking fans for money to redevelop the west terrace utta bull'"
Wasn't worth saying once let alone four times.
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| I was just looking back and the initial stadium we were supposed to get cost 12 million to build in its entirety.
Fast forward 10 years and 12 million + only gets us likely around 1/4-1/3 of what we were getting for 12 million.
Have costs really tripled and more since then? When you look at what we were getting for 12 million to essentially getting one and a bit stands it seems a wide gap.
Maybe it’s a much improved spec I don’t know.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "I was just looking back and the initial stadium we were supposed to get cost 12 million to build in its entirety.
Fast forward 10 years and 12 million + only gets us likely around 1/4-1/3 of what we were getting for 12 million.
Have costs really tripled and more since then? When you look at what we were getting for 12 million to essentially getting one and a bit stands it seems a wide gap.
Maybe it’s a much improved spec I don’t know.'"
Steel, labour and just general materials have gone up ridiculous in the last 2 years never mind 10
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "I was just looking back and the initial stadium we were supposed to get cost 12 million to build in its entirety.
Fast forward 10 years and 12 million + only gets us likely around 1/4-1/3 of what we were getting for 12 million.
Have costs really tripled and more since then? When you look at what we were getting for 12 million to essentially getting one and a bit stands it seems a wide gap.
Maybe it’s a much improved spec I don’t know.'"
Trust me it was never going to cost that. The last official figure I saw for NM was 18 million and that was about 2010.
What you’ve also got to remember is that at NM we were tenants, at BV we will own it. So despite what cosmic cat states in the long term it’s a far better deal.
Every penny that is spent at BV goes to the club.
It’s not just the obvious either. That car park and fanzone - farmers market once a month - easy money. You wouldn’t be able to do that at NM. Probably be a grand a month, not huge but it’s 12k a year we don’t have now.
For all the glory these are things clubs like Wigan or Hull who rent just can’t do. Imagination is all it takes.
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| Quote: vastman "Trust me it was never going to cost that. The last official figure I saw for NM was 18 million and that was about 2010.
What you’ve also got to remember is that at NM we were tenants, at BV we will own it. So despite what cosmic cat states in the long term it’s a far better deal.
Every penny that is spent at BV goes to the club.
It’s not just the obvious either. That car park and fanzone - farmers market once a month - easy money. You wouldn’t be able to do that at NM. Probably be a grand a month, not huge but it’s 12k a year we don’t have now.
For all the glory these are things clubs like Wigan or Hull who rent just can’t do. Imagination is all it takes.'"
I can definitely see the benefits of us owning the land and stadium but do “all” monies go to the club?
Im mainly talking the gym memberships and community use though here. Unless it’s an agreement we provide and run the services yet retain all profits/moneys.
Your right though as we do own it and if we can manage to make it profitable and maximise any earnings outside of match day it could spur on money for further player investment and near future stadium improvements. There’s even sponsorship opportunities which could probably bring in a few more thousands.
I think it will really help in attracting some players to the club too.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "I can definitely see the benefits of us owning the land and stadium but do “all” monies go to the club?
Im mainly talking the gym memberships and community use though here. Unless it’s an agreement we provide and run the services yet retain all profits/moneys.
Your right though as we do own it and if we can manage to make it profitable and maximise any earnings outside of match day it could spur on money for further player investment and near future stadium improvements. There’s even sponsorship opportunities which could probably bring in a few more thousands.
I think it will really help in attracting some players to the club too.'"
I'm pretty sure the club will keep all the income (including the £2m grant from the council). The prices we can charge for the community facilities are limited, however, to the going rate by the council.
How the club arrange food/drink profits is also down to them - sub-contract or keep in-house?
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| Quote: coco the fullback "I'm pretty sure the club will keep all the income (including the £2m grant from the council). The prices we can charge for the community facilities are limited, however, to the going rate by the council.
How the club arrange food/drink profits is also down to them - sub-contract or keep in-house?'"
I think Carter and Mynards are shrewd businessmen so I would hope whatever we do we maximise it’s potential. Hopefully that will get re-invested into the first team and academy and we can see some success on the pitch which will ultimately spur us on.
I hope the club use this new development to develop a strong professional culture at the club.
The facilities in the stand and refurbished will be improved light years from what we currently have available. Inclusive of 4G Pitch, expanded gym on site, new changing facilities and what looks like new meeting rooms in the new stand etc too.
From a player point of view it will most likely be a much more enjoyable and professional environment.
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