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| The bottom line is that we had better hope that Jowitt or any of our other players don’t receive a ban because we will be going into the game with a very young and inexperienced back line. We are also having to play with a less than desired hooking situation but that is the gamble we chose to go with squad wise. I think the club knew this hence the request not to have a go at the team when results or performances go against us.
If Jowitt does miss out then it is another academy player we are throwing into an already depleted team.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "The bottom line is that we had better hope that Jowitt or any of our other players don’t receive a ban because we will be going into the game with a very young and inexperienced back line. We are also having to play with a less than desired hooking situation but that is the gamble we chose to go with squad wise. I think the club knew this hence the request not to have a go at the team when results or performances go against us.
If Jowitt does miss out then it is another academy player we are throwing into an already depleted team.'"
Lets cross our fingers regarding Jowett and hope we does'nt pick up a ban but with our luck he probably will,
But i can't see a young inexperience player playing fullback we must have a better option maybe Kay, Crowther and Bowes can cover the hooking roll.
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| Quote: cheshirecat57 "Lets cross our fingers regarding Jowett and hope we does'nt pick up a ban but with our luck he probably will,
But i can't see a young inexperience player playing fullback we must have a better option maybe Kay, Crowther and Bowes can cover the hooking roll.'"
God no. Please don’t put Crowther at 9.
I do not get this fascination to willingly play players out of position.
If we are missing a full back (which I don’t think we will) then why would you …
Play Kaye in an unfamiliar role at 1 resulting in playing Crowther in a position he is not suited for at 9..
Just bring in Butterworth who is an actual full back and keep Kaye and Crowther in their preferred/natural positions.
Honestly I just don’t get why you’d play 2 players out of position instead of just bringing in 1 young full back in.
That is exactly one of the reasons Chester repeatedly failed. Playing players out of positions to plug gaps. In most cases it simply does not work and ends up being detrimental to the team. Let’s gamble on Kaye at full back and while we are at it stifle our threat from 9…
Jowitt couldn’t adjust and the Leeds player fell awkwardly. It was just one of those things and Jowitt flew past him due to this. Looks like he got caught by a leg or boot if anything but I honestly don’t know what people expect Max to do? He can’t stop running full tilt on a player who unexpectedly fell in front of his legs. He couldn’t stop and if he’d carried on he’d probably have booted Newman in the head or stood on his head. Sometimes unfortunate things happen but the suggestions max slid in are ludicrous imo.
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| I’m not sure the Jowitt one is as bad as people are making out so hopefully he’ll play. If not, Kay to full back and Crowther to cover hooker with Bowes. Whitbread can play loose and Walker at six. That’s how I’d go anyway.
Also, regrading Butterworth, he’s not showing as being in the first team squad. Wasn’t there a rule that when a player played SL their wage automatically went up to a certain amount? I think it stopped for the first year of Covid but not sure if it’s back in play? I reckon that’ll be a factor if so.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "God no. Please don’t put Crowther at 9.
I do not get this fascination to willingly play players out of position.
If we are missing a full back (which I don’t think we will) then why would you …
Play Kaye in an unfamiliar role at 1 resulting in playing Crowther in a position he is not suited for at 9..
Just bring in Butterworth who is an actual full back and keep Kaye and Crowther in their preferred/natural positions.
Honestly I just don’t get why you’d play 2 players out of position instead of just bringing in 1 young full back in.
That is exactly one of the reasons Chester repeatedly failed. Playing players out of positions to plug gaps. In most cases it simply does not work and ends up being detrimental to the team. Let’s gamble on Kaye at full back and while we are at it stifle our threat from 9…
Jowitt couldn’t adjust and the Leeds player fell awkwardly. It was just one of those things and Jowitt flew past him due to this. Looks like he got caught by a leg or boot if anything but I honestly don’t know what people expect Max to do? He can’t stop running full tilt on a player who unexpectedly fell in front of his legs. He couldn’t stop and if he’d carried on he’d probably have booted Newman in the head or stood on his head. Sometimes unfortunate things happen but the suggestions max slid in are ludicrous imo.'"
Kaye would be excellent cover at FB.
As you say, it comes down to how the rest of the side is affected by any changes.
He's (Kaye) has been going great at 9 and there is no doubt that there would be a significant minus by not having him in that position.
Mind you, Bowes is getting better and better and if we spell him with Crowther at 9, it's not too shabby at all.
Putting a young las at FB would be a huge risk and there is no doubt that he would be targeted.
Let's hope Jowitt plays though, he's been right up there so far, a quality FB
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Kaye would be excellent cover at FB.
As you say, it comes down to how the rest of the side is affected by any changes.
He's (Kaye) has been going great at 9 and there is no doubt that there would be a significant minus by not having him in that position.
Mind you, Bowes is getting better and better and if we spell him with Crowther at 9, it's not too shabby at all.
Putting a young las at FB would be a huge risk and there is no doubt that he would be targeted.
Let's hope Jowitt plays though, he's been right up there so far, a quality FB'"
I just think throwing in Butterworth is the lesser of the two evils and we will lose too much without Kaye at 9. Then again Bowes seems to have a big engine so maybe if he can do 60 minutes it would be ok for Crowther to step in for 20.
Luckily its Pochings problem and I’m still firmly in the positive camp so I’m sure they will get it right this week.
Probably discussing something that won’t happen anyway.
We need to put Toulouse to bed from minute one and crush their soul.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "I just think throwing in Butterworth is the lesser of the two evils and we will lose too much without Kaye at 9. Then again Bowes seems to have a big engine so maybe if he can do 60 minutes it would be ok for Crowther to step in for 20.
Luckily its Pochings problem and I’m still firmly in the positive camp so I’m sure they will get it right this week.
Probably discussing something that won’t happen anyway.
We need to put Toulouse to bed from minute one and crush their soul.'"
For me, I'd go with the kid. He knows his position. Give him a shot. If it fails. Kay is on the bench anyway so all the other options are still open to us.
Ideally it's Max that's playing.
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| Quote: PopTart "For me, I'd go with the kid. He knows his position. Give him a shot. If it fails. Kay is on the bench anyway so all the other options are still open to us.
Ideally it's Max that's playing.'"
I believe butterworth is more an half back than full back as full back is arguably hardest postion to play which carries alot of pressure so for me id go with kaye there should max get banned with kobe poaching been interchange hooker with bowes
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "I’m not sure the Jowitt one is as bad as people are making out so hopefully he’ll play. If not, Kay to full back and Crowther to cover hooker with Bowes. Whitbread can play loose and Walker at six. That’s how I’d go anyway.
Also, regrading Butterworth, he’s not showing as being in the first team squad. Wasn’t there a rule that when a player played SL their wage automatically went up to a certain amount? I think it stopped for the first year of Covid but not sure if it’s back in play? I reckon that’ll be a factor if so.'"
If it is, we might as well pack in if we can’t afford to pay a young kid’s wage increase. I know the club likes to do things on the cheap but it’s going to get us relegated at some point.
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| Quote: Willzay "If it is, we might as well pack in if we can’t afford to pay a young kid’s wage increase. I know the club likes to do things on the cheap but it’s going to get us relegated at some point.'"
Assuming you know what's going on with the clubs finances, perhaps you'd explain just what the club do on the cheap, seriously!
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| Would be nice to actually see something like a complete team playing against our main rivals .
Wonder if any of the players that were a couple of weeks away might be fit ? Think poching mentioned hood and Gaskell ? Either would be a big positive sometimes it seems like we have a revolving door
So definitely unavailable
Jowitt , miller , tupo kershaw minns Lineham
? Hall and Croft ?
If hall and Croft are fit lynne or Johnson to fb ?
One would think walker and Lino at half back
Almost an embarrassment of riches in the forwards especially if hoods fit although I think bowes and Kaye have been doing ok
Be very use ful if Gaskell were fit as he d fill in at fb
All going to depend on who’s available
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| Quote: Luppylad "I believe butterworth is more an half back than full back as full back is arguably hardest postion to play which carries alot of pressure so for me id go with kaye there should max get banned with kobe poaching been interchange hooker with bowes'"
He's currently playing full back in the A team though isn't he?
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| Quote: PopTart "He's currently playing full back in the A team though isn't he?'"
Yes think Butterworth plays more full back than half back when I've seen him play in reserves or 19's always looks safe under high balls and good positional play when he played boxing day at Leeds I thought he looked very confident in his all round play don't think he would be phased by it
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| For me the backs look like this
Butterworth
TJ
Hall
Lyne
Murphy
Walker
Lino
If Hall not ready then Croft steps in.
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| Quote: PopTart "He's currently playing full back in the A team though isn't he?'"
No half back robbie mann is playing full back
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