We have the players we have and in the 2nd half Saints skill and ability ( helped by our mistakes) just came through ! We cannot match teams like Saints , Catalans, Wigan etc with a full team . The fact is we are just not good enough !!!

We certainly made saints look a lot better than they should have been with dumb plays and penalties.Some embarrassing efforts in tackling resulting in soft tries and probably a second half for kershaw to forget as he was certainly targeted but hopefully will learn .Overall there was plenty of effort but clueless and toothless in attack ,think we made just 12 m in 6 tackles from of our line .Certainly look much better when we throw the ball about, but that isn’t nearly often enough to worry the opposition who dealt with everything we had without breaking sweat .

That was a pretty impressive second half collapse, even for us. Something just isn’t right within that team, be it the players physically or mentally, the coaching or just the whole club mentality i don’t know but something has to change soon. This ain’t going to be solved by the signing of another big prop either, it runs much deeper than that.

Perhaps we aren’t as good as we think we are.
Where the heck is the first win coming from?
I’m at a loss but am no coach.
I’ve sat on the fence for a long time but we’re getting further away from a win and there needs to be a change - sorry but the buck falls with the coach if the players aren’t doing it for CC then we need a coach they will do it for!

Under the structure we play to why is losing Miller going to make any difference, it’s not. We simply don’t offer any variation and create enough space for all of the backs

We might not be as good as we thought but i’m damn sure those players are better than the stuff they are coming out with right now.

Absolutely, we have some quality players IMO.

We do .... just not enough and not in the critical positions . Imo

If it's nothing to with the coaches why have we got one ,and every other team in S L including the teams in OZ

We have quality players that for whatever reason aren’t firing on all cylinders and haven’t been for some time .Is that the coach ,their fitness ,their attitudes, I really don’t know , but it needs to change and change quick as the clock is ticking and I really don’t to want to watch us in another million pound game ,my old ticker won’t take it ..

Didn't we bring in Last and Poching to assist CC? There's enough of them now working with the players all week but the performances just aren't there.

Too many cooks an all that

Not gonna slag cc off but cant defend him either and its between us and leigh for bottom

I can find one positive in amongst all this and that's that we seem to be able to defend really well for one half which to me, on the face of it, reflects well on the players attitudes? So wtf goes wrong? Is it the fact we know we can't score and the pressure gets to us? Ignoring everything else it's impossible to get away from the bare facts of our win percentage over best part of two seasons...

What was the post match excuse this time, whatever it was I am sure Chester will not take any of the blame.