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They seemed to do ok after he left though so I'm not sure you can say they were bad days for him.

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I have to say I'm getting a bit bored with this now though.

I liked Smith but he's gone now.
He needs to get off facebook and carry on with his life.

MC needs to concentrate on running the club and learning from this. Doesn't need to counter any stories, just set about getting acoach that will suit us.

We can do without the distraction.

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If and its a big if there seems to be genuine progress re. Purchase of ground and possibilities of development I can fully understand why MC would want to stay at the helm and oversee it all.

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Quote: thebeagle "If and its a big if there seems to be genuine progress re. Purchase of ground and possibilities of development I can fully understand why MC would want to stay at the helm and oversee it all.'"


And conversely, why BS might suddenly want a piece of the action by way of equity share...?

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Quote: thebeagle "If and its a big if there seems to be genuine progress re. Purchase of ground and possibilities of development I can fully understand why MC would want to stay at the helm and oversee it all.'"


Exactly - if only because if the ground refurbishment comes off, then the value of the club will be at least £2. Instant 100% profit!

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Quote: lampyboy "If I was selling a business why would I expect a business plan from the incoming party. m C said at the end of last season he was unsure of his position, he's also said if the right people came in he would stand aside . I suppose it comes down to the evaluation from the owner and the offer from the buyer. Just how do you value a club .Could the club expect a better offer from someone with as much RL know all. Is the club for sale and would anyone interested be prepared to offer a plan going forward to M C , I doubt it'"


errr... because MC has put a lot of his own money in to the club!
I think it only reasonable to ask any prospective owner what he intends to do with it!

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Quote: Trinity1315 "errr... because MC has put a lot of his own money in to the club!
I think it only reasonable to ask any prospective owner what he intends to do with it!'"


IF he was selling the whole shooting match, surely he would want to clear his cost's / debt and wouldn't be overly concerned as to the new owners next move.

If we are talking investment and taking on a shareholder, then, of course, that would be different.

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Quote: Trinity1315 "errr... because MC has put a lot of his own money in to the club!
I think it only reasonable to ask any prospective owner what he intends to do with it!'"


Yes he has put is own money into the club, how much no one knows, how much has he taken back so far if any, no one knows.

He needs to Stop saying he will sell for a pound every time he is given grieve when he clearly will not. Only he knows what price he will really take to walk away and on what terms, he is the biggest shareholder with CB the second biggest on the last lot of figures on company's house.

His club, his choice, but stop telling fans no one is interested when at least one person was.

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Quote: Trinity1315 "I think you have hit the nail on the head there. I think MC genuinely does have the interests of the club at heart but quite understandably wants his money back. He presumably loaned it to the club so why should it be any different to any other loan - has to be repaid!
If he didn't have the interests of the club at heart why on earth would he have taken it on initially?
If he can do it by making the club successful first then I'm all for that!'"



Could it be that it was easier to look after his cash 'investment' from within than from without ?

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Or could it be that the person who was suggesting he would like to buy it was a little delusional (some may say crazy) and on further inspection, didn't have the finances in place to back up what he was suggesting??

Rather than spending his time coming up with crackpot ways of buying the club, id have preferred him to look at ways for us to win games of rugby. 2 from 14 against Super League opposition (i would imagine the for/against doesnt make for good reading!) doesn't lie and is suddenly getting forgotten due to the garbage that he is spouting on social media. Have we really improved any during his time? There were brief glimpses, but defensively we are still appalling.

My take on it all is that BS assembled the current squad and has now realised it simply wasn't good enough and has got out before damaging his reputation further.
He can carry on blaming whoever he wants, but he knew the budgets and chose how to spend what he had. Something in my opinion he did badly!

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Quote: Trinity1315 "errr... because MC has put a lot of his own money in to the club!
I think it only reasonable to ask any prospective owner what he intends to do with it!'"


And maybe, just maybe, he actually cares what happens to the club?

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M C did say he didn't want to elaborate on the reasons why the working relationship had become frosty and I am almost sure he went on to say that B S may have a different view. I'm of the opinion that both of them seem to have reached a stale mate and if B S remained we still wouldn't know the frosty relationship excited . Because of M Cs willingness to sell it would appear an offer was made and for what ever reason not accepted. Now if that conversation ever took place who knows but B S departed and started his silly Facebook comments .B S would have been better in my view to provide an interview to a R L publication and fully put his views forward if a story excited . Anyway it's another crazy event in the Trinity history

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Quote: Pound 4 Wrighty "Or could it be that the person who was suggesting he would like to buy it was a little delusional (some may say crazy) and on further inspection, didn't have the finances in place to back up what he was suggesting??

Rather than spending his time coming up with crackpot ways of buying the club, id have preferred him to look at ways for us to win games of rugby. 2 from 14 against Super League opposition (i would imagine the for/against doesnt make for good reading!) doesn't lie and is suddenly getting forgotten due to the garbage that he is spouting on social media. Have we really improved any during his time? There were brief glimpses, but defensively we are still appalling.

My take on it all is that BS assembled the current squad and has now realised it simply wasn't good enough and has got out before damaging his reputation further.
He can carry on blaming whoever he wants, but he knew the budgets and chose how to spend what he had. Something in my opinion he did badly!'"


Very good post. eusa_clap.gif I wonder if we had won say 3 or 4 out of the first 5, instead of winning one against HKR who actually beat us on tries, whether he'd still be here??

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And just maybe another part of the equation in regards BS wanting to buy and MC not wanting to sell is things happening in the background re an offer to purchase the ground back

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Just how many football and rugby league club owners actually recoup their investments these days. Most of them have a love for the game and enough readies to be able to afford losing the odd million or two. I would imagine that MC was quite relieved that the previous owner wasn't too eager to take back all that he was personally owed.

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