I'm not sure his tweet says that much. Someone tweeted him and suggested that the Dewsbury ground makes Belle Vue look like the Theatre of Dreams and he responded, 'are you being serious?' He's right, in that regard.

And think it through: if this is about getting the Bank of Ireland to agree a lower rent, he's hardly likely to say, 'don't worry, mate, we're not really leaving'.

You've got to follow a process with this:
1. Can the club survive at Belle Vue with the current rent, crowd levels, and level of investment?
2. If the answer is no, was it wrong to give notice, in the hope that the rent is reduced?
3. If no, it wasn't wrong, do we do nothing in the hope that the bank renegotiates, or do seek an alternative short-term home?
4. If we do nothing, and the bank doesn't give us a lower rent, and looks instead for a buyer, where do we play next year?
5. If we are trying to force a negotiation, what is wrong with making out we have somewhere else to go?
6. If there is no renegotiation, shouldn't we have somewhere else to go?

If you agree with 1 and 2, everything else that follows is logical and sensible.

The only area we would end up better off in is in ground maintenance, which is what is killing us now. The insurance and ultility increases that will come due to having two teams at the ground will be added onto to renti to reflect the extra cost to Dewsbury of us playing there. As for the cost of caterers then we either have to continue to use our own and as such no change or use the ones Dewsbury currently do so pay for the privilage. And the savings made there will be eaten straight up in lost revenue through lower footfall. Can you really see attendances holding up because i can't.

I also can't see why we would spend money (what money?!) improving their ground? We would surley only do that if we were staying long term and if that is the plan then the club will die anyway. So no, it isn't a good thing in my view at all really.

I'm pretty sure it was brinkmanship but the gamble was that the bank would prefer the easy money and take a lower rent option. It was always possible, some would say probable, that they actually want rid of the place and will happily sell it on to a housing developer who can take advantage of the planning permission on it. They will need to have the section 38 condition removed during the upcoming renewal but the hand of any objectors to that has been seriously weakened by us voluntarily giving notice to leave with 18 months left on the lease. And with Newmarket as unlikely as it has ever been the chances are it may get removed. The other option is to sit on the land a couple of years and see if the club withers away and dies playing outside of the city. Its been over a month and the boi haven't been back in touch regarding the offer we made and now someone has put a bid in. I'd say they are pushing for a sale.

What happened to our love in with the new MP for Morley. I thought she would do everything possible to sort out the Newmarket question. It appears to have gone very quiet on this front.

see this where it gets out of hand, this figure is not the figure quoted that the bank excepts as rent, it was quoted that this figure is the total to run the club using Belle Vue to play out of and maintain

lets just take things stadium related away from the equation,
where is our support right now,so what difference is it going to make if he took us to the moon, the Wakefield fans are a set of luddites unwilling to except change,
anyone standing to the moans and groans are called blinkered, rose tinted and in a love in with the club yet still want to see the club do well but are now drifting away, don't think we are the only ones just look at what has happened to Salford and they have got a new stadium

Let see what the news fetches today and see what response the Wakefield public say then

At the end of the day, I think everyone would prefer a solution within Wakefield proper. But we have been trying that for years and years and nothing has come off, if we have to temporarily leave Wakefield then Dewsbury is probably the best option for a lot of people. Decent ground, very accessible by car, direct bus from Wakey bus station. I would travel to Dewsbury, I wouldn't go to Donny or Barnsley.

Dewsbury is actually nearer to me than BV but BV is all we've know and loved.I'd love a re developed BV or a new stadium.Dewsbury are working hard to upgrade their ground,the road end as been made into a standing area and were on with the same at the opposite end I believe.if Trin played in timbuktoo I'd make every effort to get there.The sooner we get stability on the ground issue the better.I'm sure MC and team will do what's best for Wakey.

The problem is it wouldn't be a temporary move in reality would it, we would be there for years. It's about time people started to accept Newmarket as originally planned isn't going to happen, lets be honest there is no polical will, the developer is deliberately trying to manipulate the planning permission to there own end and half the fans never wanted to move their anyway. The best we could of hoped for was to use the land there as a bargaining chip to get Belle Vue and the land around it bought back and in our name with maybe some money up front to start vital improvements with incremental payments as the Newmarket site was developed. But to do this we had to play for time with BV and be in situ when this happened. By moving the bank will now likely sell the land, the planning condition is easier to remove and our historic home will be flattened for housing. So now we are stuck looking at being tenants in somebody elses ground outside Wakefield for a long time to come. I can't see any kind of positive outcome there.

Now i understand why Mr Carter took the decision, if we were to go down then it would prove to be the correct decision as we couldn't run a full-time squad on championship income whilst playing at Belle Vue. But if we stay up then it is going to look a foolish one as we will be moving away when we didn't have to. The savings we would make will be lost in people no longer attending and the money they also spend elsewhere. Add to the fact that we have already had two attendances this year higher than Dewsburys 5000 capacity which would be lost revenue straight away. Where will the net crease come from exactly?

Put it this way a conservative estimate would say if an average of 800 don't go next year due to the move and their average pay in cost is £15 then then over the course of 13 games we are 156K down
If a quarter of those missing would normally spend an average of £30 on merchandise from the shop the thats another 6K
If those people have an average in ground spend (programme, pop, beer, food, halftime draw etc) of just 3 quid a person (i know some won't spend any but some will spend much more) then over the season thats another 31200
Add on the 1500 people we wouldn't be able to fit into the ground on those two games its another 22500.
If just 50 of those people are club 1873 members and decide that since they are no longer going they won't bother thats 5200.
Thats a total of all but 221K. Is it really worth it in the end?

And once people stop going and get out of the habit it is very difficult to get them back. I really do fear a move from BV will be the end.

That's my take on it. Whilst physically the ground is practically in Wakefield it's perceptively a massive move away which will give the knife edge support an excuse not to go. I'll still go but many won't bother. If we move out of the city the club will die in 5-10 years or so.

I have read all of this thread and as a supporter of 60 years it deeply saddens me the plight we are in.
I will hold my hand up and say I haven't a clue as to the best way forward.
It is easy to criticise and lash out, but those who are criticising the club management have yet to come forward with really viable solutions.
All I know is that I am Trinity 'through and through' and will be there supporting come what may.
If some on here who just keep looking for excuses to cease supporting think I am 'blinkered', wear 'rose tinted glasses' good for them.
I call it being a supporter of something that is so much part of my life.

You can arrive at what figures you want. The clubs owned by Mr Carter and he can do as he pleases. I don't think for one minute he will be thinking about loosing any money . Hes the man in the know he knows how much it costs to run a rugby club and if the rents out of range at present hes simply looking at alternatives.
We may not like the goings on but we can do nothing to change the present situation. I support Wakefield Trinity and for the present time Mr C the owner and like many an owner before him he probably over values in money terms and underestimated the fans passion and feelings for the Trin.
Pub landlords come and go, some you like some you don't get on with. You may even stay away while the pubs under ownership of an owner you don't like. The problem s that the pub may close never to open its doors again because of rising prices and fewer numbers drinking. I think the only way we can insure we are watching Wakey will be to get behind the team and make sure we turn up, I don't see it as support for Mr Carter just supporting my team. Any really disgruntled supporters can organise demonstrations.
Just remember the next three games could well be the last we play at B V and I would much rather celebrate the old girl than go on a sour note. I have had some great times at our outdated sub standard ground and have not given a hoot about her condition. It part of the history of Wakefield and its played a massive part of my own personal family history for, well ages.

This.