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I thought that Lynn had a good game bar the one drop which lets face it he wasn't the only one to drop the ball. I thought he ran it in well and his defence was good, I just think that he needs the confidence to back himself more.

I thought that Anderson and Smith had good games at prop and Fox also had a good game taking his try well and defending well.

Our defence was good througout, they didn't really break our line and there trys came from our individual errors.

If we can keep the defence like it has been in the past 2 games for the rest of the season we will be ok.

Our attack looked like what it was, a group of players who had hardly played together before, but in time and with plenty of work on the training pitch we have the talent in the side to cause teams problems.

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Quote: tigertot "Thanks Christ I am not a Wakey fan. You are an embarrassment.'"


I agree; and given that you're a Cas fan, I would have thought you'd be immune to embarrassment by now?

I'm comfortable with my view that we've been reffed out of the first 20 mins of both games we've played so far this season; from the first 10 minutes alone last night, Washbrook penalised for a not high high tackle, Smith penalised for a perfectly legal ball steal and Purtell awarded a try that was never grounded.

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Quote: altofts wildcat " Our attack looked like what it was, a group of players who had hardly played together before, but in time and with plenty of work on the training pitch we have the talent in the side to cause teams problems.'"


How long though, my fellow altoftian?? How many winnable games will have passed before they start causing problems? And how many games will they cause problems before they string wins together?

Don't forget that Bradford team are in the same boat with players in/out.

Everyone knows wakefield can play better than that, but it'll be about winning ugly this year against teams like Bradford/Cas/Widnes etc

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Quote: bren2k "I agree; and given that you're a Cas fan, I would have thought you'd be immune to embarrassment by now?

I'm comfortable with my view that we've been reffed out of the first 20 mins of both games we've played so far this season; from the first 10 minutes alone last night, Washbrook penalised for a not high high tackle, Smith penalised for a perfectly legal ball steal and Purtell awarded a try that was never grounded.'"


Bulls fan?

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "How long though, my fellow altoftian?? How many winnable games will have passed before they start causing problems? And how many games will they cause problems before they string wins together?

Don't forget that Bradford team are in the same boat with players in/out.

Everyone knows wakefield can play better than that, but it'll be about winning ugly this year against teams like Bradford/Cas/Widnes etc'"


Our next game is Wigan away which is tough for any team but after that we have Catalans at home the London away. I would like us to have hit our straps by the time we go to London. We also have a decent record against Catalan at Belle Vue so I think that is also a game we can target.

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Quote: altofts wildcat "Our next game is Wigan away which is tough for any team but after that we have Catalans at home the London away. I would like us to have hit our straps by the time we go to London. We also have a decent record against Catalan at Belle Vue so I think that is also a game we can target.'"

But that is the problem, given our fixtures we needed a decent start whatever the problems have been regarding getting our players here. It may be a good time to be playing Wigan given they are currently in Sydney but playing like last night I wouldn't back us to beat their academy side. Catalan at home is winnable but they are a good side so only if we play well and have gelled an awful lot more than we have seen so far. And right now that looks a good few weeks off. Just beating London will not be enough, two go down and they will all have a fair start on us by then. Then starts a very tough run of fixtures that will be tough to get much out of. We need at least one win on the board by the London game but right now I just don't see it happening.

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Quote: bren2k "I agree; and given that you're a Cas fan, I would have thought you'd be immune to embarrassment by now?.'"


Cracking retort.

Quote: bren2k "I'm comfortable with my view that we've been reffed out of the first 20 mins of both games we've played so far this season; from the first 10 minutes alone last night, Washbrook penalised for a not high high tackle, Smith penalised for a perfectly legal ball steal and Purtell awarded a try that was never grounded.'"


Please expalin how Mr Hicks awarded Purtell a try that never was?

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Quote: altofts wildcat "Our next game is Wigan away which is tough for any team but after that we have Catalans at home the London away. I would like us to have hit our straps by the time we go to London. We also have a decent record against Catalan at Belle Vue so I think that is also a game we can target.'"


your record against Catalans at home (just off my memory) is great! Can't remember a loss to be honest!

A win against Lodnon is a bare minimum - beating Catalans then losng to London would be a waste of 2 points really.

I still reckon you're playing Wigan at the perfect time really so they aren't unbeatable. If you can beat london then maybe win 2/the next 3 your season is still on track - assuming you're targetting 12th like (considering the pre-season, that'd be a success IMO)

I still think it'd be a lovely poo on the doorstep of the RFL if both Cas and Wakey stay up and they've relegated Bradford and London

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Quote: bren2k "Mr Hicks put them ten points up, and that was all she wrote; an awful spectacle and not a performance that bore any resemblance to the second half fight back at Salford.

The decision to chop and change to squeeze Sammut in was a poor one; if he had to play tonight, I'd have put him at fb and let Mathers have a sit down.

I don't like to sign up to conspiracy theories, but that's two games in a row where we've got absolutely nowt from the official in the first half; if you were a cynic, you'd almost believe that our card was marked in relegation year.'"


Pretty much this.

I am normally pretty fair in respect to refs but it felt so much like the officials were against us I was getting frustrated in the first half and I think it showed on the team as well with their lack patience and composure. Off the top of my head there was a ball steal, a try given by the video and a high tackle given against Washbrook that were really harsh on us out of a sea of penalties given by the referee.

I think the way the game has been refereed over here is killing the game as a spectacle over the past few years, its become pedantic to the point of being ridiculous. Too much benefit of doubt is given to attackers for any marginal high shots, play-the ball incidents etc that the games are just decided by marginal penalties.

Actually I thought our opening defensive stint was very encouraging in the face of all the Bull's possession, eventually I think this took its toll later in the game.

I think we also need to bear in mind that we must have been held up over the line or close at least 3 times, any of which could easily have changed the game and maybe then we would have been walking out with a different attitude as to how the game went. It just wasn't our night.

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Quote: tigertot "

Please expalin how Mr Hicks awarded Purtell a try that never was?'"


where does he say that?

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "your record against Catalans at home (just off my memory) is great! Can't remember a loss to be honest!

A win against Lodnon is a bare minimum - beating Catalans then losng to London would be a waste of 2 points really.

I still reckon you're playing Wigan at the perfect time really so they aren't unbeatable. If you can beat london then maybe win 2/the next 3 your season is still on track - assuming you're targetting 12th like (considering the pre-season, that'd be a success IMO)

I still think it'd be a lovely poo on the doorstep of the RFL if both Cas and Wakey stay up and they've relegated Bradford and London'"

The 2009 play off game is one defeat to them that sticks in my craw. But there has been a couple of other defeats as well although our overall record at home against them is good. But we need to be an awful lot better to beat them.

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Everyone knows wakefield can play better than that, but it'll be about winning ugly this year against teams like Bradford/Cas/Widnes etc'"
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ha ha not going to happen you wont even beat London.
Cas will whip you...
Widnes will whip you...
and Bradford whipped you last night...

PLAYED 2 LOST 2
happy relegation

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I'm actually a Castleford fan old cock

And you don't do my credibility any favours posting tripe like that

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sorry Dave, but I'm not trying to do your credibility a favour, I'm just posting FACT.
On last night performance Wakefield WILL be the super league whipping boys this year

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Bradford always seem to win us, our bogey team.
2nd game is season it was a must win for them (point deduction) but we've made it a whole lot harder. Looks like we may have to beat a couple of 'top' teams now...

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