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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "This used to pee me off about Wally Lewis.'"


Seriously! We are comparing him to Wally Lewis

And since you have mentioned it, I doubt, no matter how good he thought he was, he was under selling himself in Wakefield.

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All I can say is if Mariano gets the boot it's Wakefield's loss and another teams gain, maybe Mariano wants out, that's why he isn't applying himself as he should. Maybe it's frustration that he can't hold a 1st team position even though every time he plays he holds his own, if not better.

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People are speaking like they are actually there . Mariano doesnt apply himself in training blah blah blah. All I know hes a damm sight better than a 3rd rate aussie in Vince Mellars and he should be playing. If he aint going to training and been a nusence he should be fined!

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "People are speaking like they are actually there . Mariano doesnt apply himself in training blah blah blah!'"

I said that he cuts corners in training, that was a direct quote from RA when asked why he'd been dropped! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "People are speaking like they are actually there . Mariano doesnt apply himself in training blah blah blah. All I know hes a damm sight better than a 3rd rate aussie in Vince Mellars and he should be playing. If he aint going to training and been a nusence he should be fined!'"


I was actually there when this was said.

I think what you are saying is flawed too, it is apparent that RA rates neither FM or VM. However due to the position we are in at the moment he feels VM offers more than FM.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "People are speaking like they are actually there . Mariano doesnt apply himself in training blah blah blah. All I know hes a damm sight better than a 3rd rate aussie in Vince Mellars and he should be playing. If he aint going to training and been a nusence he should be fined!'"


I don't think anyone disagrees that Mariano is ahead of Mellars in preference to keep.
He is behind Kirmond, Ali, Washbrook and now Anakin in my opinion though so that is why he isn't in the first team. Nothing to do with Mellars.
Mellars only got in when he needed to rotate squad.

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Quote: TLeeLegend "All I can say is if Mariano gets the boot it's Wakefield's loss and another teams gain, maybe Mariano wants out, that's why he isn't applying himself as he should. Maybe it's frustration that he can't hold a 1st team position even though every time he plays he holds his own, if not better.'"


I understand where you are coming but Kyle Wood could of quite happily took his bat and ball home after not featuring in consecutive games. Difference was he (KW) trained like a spartan, listened to advice and was respective and responsive.

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Quote: kinleycat "Unless its one in and two out??
That would free up space, money and a o/s space to then spend where needed??'"



2 out of 3 ain't bad - Space-Yes, Money-Yes, O/S Space-I don't think so - Isn't Vince exempt due to Crusaders demise??

Having said that we already have a quota/non-fed place after Isaac John left

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "People are speaking like they are actually there . Mariano doesnt apply himself in training blah blah blah. All I know hes a damm sight better than a 3rd rate aussie in Vince Mellars and he should be playing. If he aint going to training and been a nusence he should be fined!'"


No, if he isn't training properly and is sulking/cutting corners then he should not be playing, even if it meant playing kids in his place. Look what happened to Kyle Amor - dropped when we needed him to keep everyone else in line (and perfectly correct decision IMO).
If he wants to play and prove to Agar that he's wrong then he needs to show the attitude and commitment in training to prove he is worthy of a spot in the team.
We can't afford to allow players to cut corners - we don't have the strength or quality to allow players to see someone who is not committed get away with it.

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Quote: Fordy "No, if he isn't training properly and is sulking/cutting corners then he should not be playing, even if it meant playing kids in his place. Look what happened to Kyle Amor - dropped when we needed him to keep everyone else in line (and perfectly correct decision IMO).
If he wants to play and prove to Agar that he's wrong then he needs to show the attitude and commitment in training to prove he is worthy of a spot in the team.
We can't afford to allow players to cut corners - we don't have the strength or quality to allow players to see someone who is not committed get away with it.'"


Amen Father Fordy

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Mariano isn't a young kid either, he's 26 now and should be a first pick. The fact that he isn't speaks volumes. He has a terrible injury record which may or may not be down to how he prepares and looks after himself but it will likely be a factor. Also throughout his time with us, despite his technique being ok he's had poor defensive stats in that he misses an awful lot of tackles. And they do say defence is about attitude...

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Why laugh? You fol;k have short memories. The season we had nothing MAriano virtually full season in super league he was outstanding under John Kear his 1ST SEASON not nurtured in the deep end he showed up didn't hide and was arguably the player of the season in his FIRST YEAR.Hes had a few injuries still pretty new to super league last year we went on a 8 match WINNING STREAK (best in our SL history) with Frankie as the interchange. Hes still young, quick makes breaks etc. SHORT MEMORIES. He wants to get back into the side hes trying his hardest yet Agar is not giving him the time of day. Like Ellis hes not his own boy so he will drop him like a unwanted dog.'"


No mate, you live in a fantasy world where you have created hero's and villains. Our memories are not short but yours is hugely selective.

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Quote: vastman "No mate, you live in a fantasy world where you have created hero's and villains. Our memories are not short but yours is hugely selective.'"


Do you think NGB4C wears a cape and a mask while he is typing?

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "[sizePeople are speaking like they are actually there .[/size Mariano doesnt apply himself in training blah blah blah. All I know hes a damm sight better than a 3rd rate aussie in Vince Mellars and he should be playing. If he aint going to training and been a nusence he should be fined!'"


You mean like you do. You make bold unfounded statements about player as if you are actually the coach and then sulk when folk don't agree.

I don't mind the opinion it's the way you say it that bothers me, as if no one else knows their stuff.

Truth is FM looked promising in his first season but has failed to build from that. Had a good run at the end of last season but who didn't. Injury proned, poor trainer and not especially appreciated by his peers is the message I'm getting. Of course I'm not there so I can't be sure but that's the drift I'm getting.

You really need to stop attacking/bulling up individual players and look at the team. Whether Agar gets it right or wrong only time will tell but as a Coach he has to create his team with his kind of players in his kind of set up and that is exactly how it should be. Wouldn't matter if you were right and IMHO you are not if Frankie doesn't give Agar what he wants he must go - ditto anyone else.

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