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If it was nothing, a clear explanation of the facts would have quickly settled any worries.
As it is we have a problem, no clear explanation and therefore space for rumour and conjecture.
So a failing on both accounts.
That's not doom and gloom, it's just if you want to be taken seriously; how you should act.

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Quote: gowerthegroap " It doesn't necessarily have to be tax related and it doesn't mean there wasn't money available to pay it in the first place does it?
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It does as it's HMRC who made the application icon_thumb.gif
However you are right it could be for a figure as low as a fiver, that's what we don't know, a bit of clarity from the club rather than the smokescreen statement made might no go a miss.
Although I do believe it's nothing and is probably just down to a poor bit of administration d040.gif

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Quote: El Rey "I've been reluctant to post on a few things lately due to the fact i'll be shot down, i can see while everthing looks rosey on the outside people will believe all is well, been told many times that behind the scenes the running of the clubs a shambles in most areas.

"Unprofessional" and "playing at it" is the phrase i've heard most to describe this club.


I don't doubt this is nothing to worry about but its very poor.'"

Getting good staff is difficult for any business, we are not cash rich so we need to get the best out of average or all rounders until we get the where with all to attract better people.
I do wonder if we have a clear structure within the club that identifies areas of responsibility and gives us the right environment to deal with both success and failure.
Sometimes it appears a bit shambolic, but we should be getting the basics right.

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The clarity fans are seeking is exactly the reason why the Supporters Trust requested representation on the BoD. Had there been an independent representitive of the fans on the BoD I'm sure that the news of this would have been handled differently and the damage caused by speculation avoided.

I have to ask if the the Supporters Trust were made aware of this via the monthly meetings with the club. If they were, was their opinion on how to handle this sought? If they weren't made aware will they be asking why, in this era of more direct communication with the fans, was it was kept from them.

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Quote: The Clan "The clarity fans are seeking is exactly the reason why the Supporters Trust requested representation on the BoD. Had there been an independent representitive of the fans on the BoD I'm sure that the news of this would have been handled differently and the damage caused by speculation avoided.

I have to ask if the the Supporters Trust were made aware of this via the monthly meetings with the club. If they were, was their opinion on how to handle this sought? If they weren't made aware will they be asking why, in this era of more direct communication with the fans, was it was kept from them.'"



There has been contact between myself and James Elston today on this matter so I guess that whilst we do not have representation on the Board we are still in contact with the Club which I find reassuring and helpful.

The matter is of a sensitive nature and the facts cannot be aired on a public forum and are indeed confidential and not for public consumption. However let me say that the Trust is now aware of the situation and hopefully everyone who knows me knows that I'm truthful and will not lie to you.

So let me assure you all that this situation is the result of a genuine misunderstanding and was not something that the Club could have forseen or pre-empted. The matter has been resolved and there is nothing for anyone, fans or sponsors (and I'm both) to be concerned about. Unfortunately we will have to live with the bad publicity and rebuild our reputation.

Hopefully this should be the end of the matter so lets move on, support the Club and the Trust and look forward to next season.

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My question is why did the club not make it known to the ST before it was splashed all over the social media, news sites and RL forums. The details needn't have been shared just the fact that a winding up petition had been lodged and it was a bad news story that needed managing.

Had that been done then I'm sure the advice from the ST would have been to preempt the imminent bad news with a defusing statement of explanation from the club thus settling the nerves of the supporters and avoiding speculation.

It's all well and good being in touch after the fact but it's all damage limitation now!

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I really can't see the need for all the drama queen crying on here.
In reality we haven't really changed any perceptions of the club in such a short time. People are happy to back slap but they are not changing their minds yet.
So in reality the only people who are up in arms are the Wakefield fa
The club have explained the situation. Whether you believe them or not, moaning won't help.

There has been a tonne of good work up till now. This should make no difference. Mistake done but corrected.
Why anyone who would have bough a season ticket before this would choose not to now beats me.

If we are WTID as so many like to say we need to support the club. Of course ask questions and say if you don't like someone but we are creating an issue that no one else cares about.

Roll on the 4,000 and the next signing. And let's move on.

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Quote: PopTart "I really can't see the need for all the drama queen crying on here.
In reality we haven't really changed any perceptions of the club in such a short time. People are happy to back slap but they are not changing their minds yet.
So in reality the only people who are up in arms are the Wakefield fa
The club have explained the situation. Whether you believe them or not, moaning won't help.

There has been a tonne of good work up till now. This should make no difference. Mistake done but corrected.
Why anyone who would have bough a season ticket before this would choose not to now beats me.

If we are WTID as so many like to say we need to support the club. Of course ask questions and say if you don't like someone but we are creating an issue that no one else cares about.

Roll on the 4,000 and the next signing. And let's move on.'"

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Quote: PopTart "I really can't see the need for all the drama queen crying on here.
In reality we haven't really changed any perceptions of the club in such a short time. People are happy to back slap but they are not changing their minds yet.
So in reality the only people who are up in arms are the Wakefield fa
The club have explained the situation. Whether you believe them or not, moaning won't help.

There has been a tonne of good work up till now. This should make no difference. Mistake done but corrected.
Why anyone who would have bough a season ticket before this would choose not to now beats me.

If we are WTID as so many like to say we need to support the club. Of course ask questions and say if you don't like someone but we are creating an issue that no one else cares about.

Roll on the 4,000 and the next signing. And let's move on.'"



I think this threads raised a few important issues and a reminder that we should question everything, the club are happy to take the back slaps they should be willing to take constructive criticism.

Of course fans suggesting they will not buy season tickets is just plain daft.

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Quote: PopTart "I really can't see the need for all the drama queen crying on here.
In reality we haven't really changed any perceptions of the club in such a short time. People are happy to back slap but they are not changing their minds yet.
So in reality the only people who are up in arms are the Wakefield fa
The club have explained the situation. Whether you believe them or not, moaning won't help.

There has been a tonne of good work up till now. This should make no difference. Mistake done but corrected.
Why anyone who would have bough a season ticket before this would choose not to now beats me.

If we are WTID as so many like to say we need to support the club. Of course ask questions and say if you don't like someone but we are creating an issue that no one else cares about.

Roll on the 4,000 and the next signing. And let's move on.'"


Well, I’ll still be getting mine on Wednesday.

It’ll take more than this to sway my full support for my club.

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Quote: El Rey "I think this threads raised a few important issues and a reminder that we should question everything, the club are happy to take the back slaps they should be willing to take constructive criticism.

Of course fans suggesting they will not buy season tickets is just plain daft.'"


Agree with all of this . I was quite happy to think that this was a load of fuss about nothing , but I actually think that all of this has now made me (and probably quite a few others ) realize that we should still be a bit more cynical in our views .
Got to be honest , I know someone who's had dealings with the club ( only over small matters ) & he's told me that "they don't seem to know what they're doing down there ".
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Quote: The Clan "My question is why did the club not make it known to the ST before it was splashed all over the social media, news sites and RL forums. The details needn't have been shared just the fact that a winding up petition had been lodged and it was a bad news story that needed managing.

Had that been done then I'm sure the advice from the ST would have been to preempt the imminent bad news with a defusing statement of explanation from the club thus settling the nerves of the supporters and avoiding speculation.

It's all well and good being in touch after the fact but it's all damage limitation now!'"


Richard,

As I have said the matter is sensitive but I believe the reason that the Club not not make it known to us at the ST earlier is that they believed the matter had/was being resolved and they were as surprised as anyone when the issue become in the public domain.

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Renewed by season ticket in August and have had 2 phone calls from same person at the club (2 weeks apart) asking if I was going to renew my ticket. This kind of thing makes the club look very amateurish. With things being computerised now this should not happen. Was also asked about 1873, which I have been in since the beginning. icon_sad.gif

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Quote: wakeytrin "Renewed by season ticket in August and have had 2 phone calls from same person at the club (2 weeks apart) asking if I was going to renew my ticket. This kind of thing makes the club look very amateurish. With things being computerised now this should not happen. Was also asked about 1873, which I have been in since the beginning.
You & me both.

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