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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Certainly, and what many were criticising the team for earlier on in the season was a lack of mental toughness, and the last three games has certainly shown they have got some of that so the players and coach deserve credit for that. However, I still can’t shake off the indecision and a real lack of options shown by the players in the first half when camped on the Hull FC try line. Either way judging at the end of the season or possibly next will give a better indication rather than a three of four game period in the season.'"

Have you ever thought that some teams have a solid goal line defensive structure and it was this that contributed to our lack of points. And the result of a lot of defence is a side who tire later in the game, some things take time in a game, in this case worth waiting for.

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Getting up quickly or trying to get up quickly helped. It got Hull on the back foot and us on a roll. Southern is a prime example it doesn't try to bother making more yards once he's tackled he hits the deck and tries to get to his feet as quickly as possible 2 or 3 of those in a set and you can catch opposition out or even get a penalty out of it especially if ref is keen.

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Quote: supercat "Getting up quickly or trying to get up quickly helped. It got Hull on the back foot and us on a roll. Southern is a prime example it doesn't try to bother making more yards once he's tackled he hits the deck and tries to get to his feet as quickly as possible 2 or 3 of those in a set and you can catch opposition out or even get a penalty out of it especially if ref is keen.'"


Correct, Bibey used to get a lot of stick for that but his PTB was very quick and he got us moving even if he didn't look spectacular - ditto. This thrashing about in the tackle is OK if it gets you an offload or extra yards but if it doesn't it just allow the opposition to get back in their defensive line. Korki was a prime example of this for me, a lot of effort with little result far to often.

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Quote: vastman "If you don't get what I'm on about you are being a bit dim.

The point I'm making is very simple. When you are the winning fans you think it's just a bit of teasing and gloating - no harm done - Hull fans are especially adept at this. When you are on the losing side it's not funny at all and you call it drunken abuse - yet another Hull speciality. I have experienced so much abuse at the hands of Hull fans I can barely feel an ounce of pity for you - I certainly remained amazed you had the audacity to bring it up on our forum all things considered.'"

Wow, so all Hull fans are the same, and we are a part of this stereotype of yours that sees us all being abusive when we win and can't take banter when we lose? And because of this, it is OK for any Hull fan to be given any abuse from others because the other Hull fans did it?

Wow. What a disgusting attitude you appear to have.

Quote: vastman "I'm not defending the Trinity fans'"

Yes you bloody are! You've basically said of an incident (that you clearly weren't at) that it was just a bit of teasing and gloating, and that it's OK because Hull fans give more. You have totally defended them!

Quote: vastman "I to have noticed a distinct drop in standards this season at BV, however you are in no position to moan - this is how it is at RL these days and your fans have done more than any others to create it. You do actually notice what goes on EVERY game in your own chav corner at the KC.'"

Believe it or not, I am not the leader and sole representative of Hull fans. I cannot be held accountable for what they do, and neither can the other decent Hull fans who have to tolerate these idiots. I am in as good a position as you to moan about the idiots that are supporting both our clubs and any other club.

Quote: vastman "You my friend have that peculiar double standard so prevalent in society these days. I suggest you leave it now and retreat with your reputation in tact, just.'"

Why do I have a double standard? Again, are you putting me into this stereotype of Hull fans you have, and therefore that makes me some kind of lout so I can't complain about others?
Again... wow! You might as well stick about, because your reputation can't get any worse after this drivel of a post of yours.

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Don't get sucked in by the vastman he's a pro at getting under the skin.

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I bet your one of those on the VT that bore people into submission Wellsy?

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Quote: inside man "I bet your one of those on the VT that bore people into submission Wellsy?'"


He certainly is.

I dare you to ask him about the momentum rule.

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Quote: bren2k "He certainly is.

I dare you to ask him about the momentum rule.'"

Don't get me started on that icon_lol.gif

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Quote: supercat "Don't get sucked in by the vastman he's a pro at getting under the skin.'"

I'm just hoping to educate him on the fact that not all Hull fans are the same, and in fact the vast majority aren't anything like what he's saying.

He'd probably fit in well under his stereotype as a Hull fan ironically!

I was just a bit appalled at his attempt to defend any spectator misbehaviour by your club because it was against Hull. It's good to see that the normal decent fans don't condone either.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "I'm just hoping to educate him on the fact that not all Hull fans are the same, and in fact the vast majority aren't anything like what he's saying.

He'd probably fit in well under his stereotype as a Hull fan ironically!

I was just a bit appalled at his attempt to defend any spectator misbehaviour by your club because it was against Hull. It's good to see that the normal decent fans don't condone either.'"

TBF i think you were probably arguing the same point but from opposite ends. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Wellsy13 "I'm just hoping to educate him on the fact that not all Hull fans are the same, and in fact the vast majority aren't anything like what he's saying.

Your educating me are you

He'd probably fit in well under his stereotype as a Hull fan ironically!

I was just a bit appalled at his attempt to defend any spectator misbehaviour by your club because it was against Hull. It's good to see that the normal decent fans don't condone either.'"


Yep it's official. you're thick. Please re-read my posts. At no point do I say you are all the same. Nor do defend the Trinity fans in question, I made that very clear, just what part don't you get. The fact that I find your indignation laughable when it's so absent when Hull fans behave this way almost every game, you being a decent fan and all.

There was poor behaviour on both sides including an assault by Hull fans outside the ground, due no doubt to drunken goading - something you know nothing about I'm sure.

You are as I say typical of the myopic one eyed fans who inhabit the VT.

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Quote: kinleycat "TBF i think you were probably arguing the same point but from opposite ends.
Correct, but his defensive nature and inability to read a post properly means he will never spot that.

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Quote: vastman "Correct, but his defensive nature and inability to read a post properly means he will never spot that.'"

That's why I pointed it out. icon_cool.gif

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Quote: vastman "Yep it's official. you're thick. Please re-read my posts. At no point do I say you are all the same. Nor do defend the Trinity fans in question, I made that very clear, just what part don't you get. The fact that I find your indignation laughable when it's so absent when Hull fans behave this way almost every game, you being a decent fan and all.

There was poor behaviour on both sides including an assault by Hull fans outside the ground, due no doubt to drunken goading - something you know nothing about I'm sure.

You are as I say typical of the myopic one eyed fans who inhabit the VT.'"


Come on Vasty. You are doing all the things that you are accusing him of. Let it go.

I thought the Hull fans near me were fine. Apart from the game against Leeds at Huddersfield when they knocked the posts down I've always found the Hull fans to be fine.
They always bring numbers and support their team with their colours too and they love their rugby.
Generally I find their language slightly more course than mine but I can handle that.
They do need to control that small minority that stand right next to the away end at KC but we have those types too as we've found recently.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "If it happened, it's out of order. But may need a bit more of a conclusive report than "a friend told me" as that's how Chinese whispers start!'"


The friend is someone i have known for over 20 years who was in the a&e department when the fans in wakey shirts came in with facial injuries not sure when/ where the injuries took place but seeing the arguments at the ground 2+2 = 4

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