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| Quote: TRB "Not argued at all.
However, his stats against Robinson don't show that - given that Robinson has played 1 game fewer and will have certainly spent less time on the pitch.
The only definitive win to Aiton is tackling - and he could still defend around the ruck, even if someone else is playing at half-back.
We need more go forward from the PTB.'"
agreed, if he's to play at dummy half, he needs one thing; coaching. |
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How often has our pack this year got a roll on and given Aiton the opportunity to have a go?? Roby wouldnt be going from acting half in this side, well not as much as he does at Saints anyhow.
Houghton and Robinson are playing in sides that are near the top of the league. 2 sides that have predominantely been on top in the games they have been involved in. Compare our props stats to Crabtree or Lynch and im sure you will see similar differences.
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| Quote: TRB "There's a bit of chicken & egg here. Bigger forwards may help to put us on the front foot, but more runs from dummy half might also allow our forwards a little more space and time to run into - rather than a charging defence! ![]()
Bigger forwards WOULD put us on the front foot for def, I think that is a fair comment about more running from dummy half but it always starts with the forwards
All we need is the one though, thats not a go at AR PJ OW & Jonson as they are all working hard
Some one like Gareth Carvell would transform our side IMO
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| Quote: Ray Price Is God "How often has our pack this year got a roll on and given Aiton the opportunity to have a go?? Roby wouldnt be going from acting half in this side, well not as much as he does at Saints anyhow.
Houghton and Robinson are playing in sides that are near the top of the league. 2 sides that have predominantely been on top in the games they have been involved in. Compare our props stats to Crabtree or Lynch and im sure you will see similar differences.'"
I think Aiton as done a fantastic job but I would also like to see him go on his own a lttle bit more. It may be unfair to bring Wood into the argument as Aiton as done most of the hardwork, but Wood never seems to hestitate in having a go and he's actually put us on the front foot. Mind due, like people have highlighted and you yourself, we have little go forward compared to the bigger teams when building a platform for the halves and the hooker to have a go regularly. Also we don't know what the coach tells em ! |
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| Quote: jesper parnevik "I think Aiton as done a fantastic job but I would also like to see him go on his own a lttle bit more. It may be unfair to bring Wood into the argument as Aiton as done most of the hardwork, but Wood never seems to hestitate in having a go and he's actually put us on the front foot. Mind due, like people have highlighted and you yourself, we have little go forward compared to the bigger teams when building a platform for the halves and the hooker to have a go regularly. Also we don't know what the coach tells em !'"
Jesper Parnevik ...my favourite golfer . Hope he recovers from his injury asap  .
Sorry - back to the topic everyone . |
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| Quote: musson "Bigger forwards WOULD put us on the front foot for def, I think that is a fair comment about more running from dummy half but it always starts with the forwards
All we need is the one though, thats not a go at AR PJ OW & Jonson as they are all working hard
Some one like Gareth Carvell would transform our side IMO'"
I agree and so do many more. I think RA knows he needs a prop as well but who's available?
I think such as Andy Raleigh and Ollie Wilkes make good yards as support props if you like, but Steve Southern and Paul Johnson although excellent defensively don't seem to be as productive in the prop role.
Looks like they'll have to soldier on for the foreseeable future though! |
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| Quote: TRB "Not argued at all.
However, his stats against Robinson don't show that - given that Robinson has played 1 game fewer and will have certainly spent less time on the pitch.
The only definitive win to Aiton is tackling - and he could still defend around the ruck, even if someone else is playing at half-back.
We need more go forward from the PTB.'"
Completely agree. When Aiton does it he looks dangerous and was near London's try line on one occasion in ther 1st half when he tried it which surprised them and wasn't far from scoring. Whatever anyone says its missing from our game as is a 18 stone top quality prop.
The proof in the 'chicken or egg' argument about which comes first (the go-forward from strong forward running props or the dummy half runs from PTB creating more space for your forwards) will be shown to a certain extent when hopefully Ellis gets a run in the next week or so. |
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