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We survived by selling players off. Poching (I think we got a bit for him?) Westwood, Wood, Ellis, Atkins.

If Newton, Tronc & Brough had stayed last year, what state would we be in now?

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "On this 'SOS decision away from new stadium' issue, who takes credit if Newmarket happens? The club won't own the new stadium, just rely on it.'"


1. YORK COURT No YC no units no stadium

2. WMDC No council to bring YC on board and try and smooth the way NO stadium.

3 WMDC No council no £2 million loan on land

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Quote: owiepob "Let me repeat I don't think the BOD are the be all and end allBUT they deserve more credit than they are getting.

Are you challenging my assersion that the post Pearman era have been, for WTWRLFC, the most successful in the clubs recent history?'"


Depends when 'recent' begins I guess. This era, much like many post-'68, has been full of false starts. Not getting to Wembley, not turning up against Catalans...the best part of this era was the run in the play-offs under McNally, the performance at Wigan was the best in Super League.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Depends when 'recent' begins I guess. This era, much like many post-'68, has been full of false starts. Not getting to Wembley, not turning up against Catalans...the best part of this era was the run in the play-offs under McNally, the performance at Wigan was the best in Super League.'"


2004 was by far my favourite year supporting Trinity.

Amazing season that I thoroughly enjoyed. We seemed to blitz the opposition in the 2nd half and Belle Vue
was a fortress.

It seems like 20 years ago now. icon_cry.gif

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "wonder where the money has gone. now thats a mystery.'"


What money ?

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Quote: Starbug "What money ?'"


Since mid 2009, the budget has been slashed with the following players leaving, Peterson, Rooney plus Pitts and Atkins with a transfer fee in return. 2010 we started with a smaller ( assuming cheaper) playing squad than in previous years while we had inflation busting admission fees. From the 2010 squad we lost two high earners in Brough and Tronc. In this period we have received half the payments for the sale of Belle Vue, naming rights payments for Belle Vue and money from new shares issued in 2009!

So where has it all gone? Certainly not on our tax bill considering we still a big amount. All I know is that this has happened in the time that Teds personal financial problems have hit home.

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Quote: deeHell "Since mid 2009, the budget has been slashed with the following players leaving, Peterson, Rooney plus Pitts and Atkins with a transfer fee in return. 2010 we started with a smaller ( assuming cheaper) playing squad than in previous years while we had inflation busting admission fees. From the 2010 squad we lost two high earners in Brough and Tronc. In this period we have received half the payments for the sale of Belle Vue, naming rights payments for Belle Vue and money from new shares issued in 2009!

So where has it all gone? Certainly not on our tax bill considering we still a big amount. All I know is that this has happened in the time that Teds personal financial problems have hit home.'"

Takes some disagreeing with that.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: deeHell "Since mid 2009, the budget has been slashed with the following players leaving, Peterson, Rooney plus Pitts and Atkins with a transfer fee in return. 2010 we started with a smaller ( assuming cheaper) playing squad than in previous years while we had inflation busting admission fees. From the 2010 squad we lost two high earners in Brough and Tronc. In this period we have received half the payments for the sale of Belle Vue, naming rights payments for Belle Vue and money from new shares issued in 2009!

So where has it all gone? Certainly not on our tax bill considering we still a big amount. All I know is that this has happened in the time that Teds personal financial problems have hit home.'"


So you are ' surmising ' that he has been taking money out of the club to help out himself financially , but you don't actually know what the situation ' financially ' the club was in before that time , the club might well have had debts that were guaranteed personally by your BOD , believe me that would not be unusual

The bottom line is you don't know , and probably never will , how long has he controlled the club ? , usually the crooked ones don't last long

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Quote: Starbug "So you are ' surmising ' that he has been taking money out of the club to help out himself financially , but you don't actually know what the situation ' financially ' the club was in before that time ,[size the club might well have had debts that were guaranteed personally by your BOD[/size , believe me that would not be unusual

The bottom line is you don't know , and probably never will , how long has he controlled the club ? , usually the crooked ones don't last long'"


That may well be the case, if so it makes a mockery of claims on here over the years that he was the saviour of Wakefield Trinity. All along he's been racking debts up in the clubs name not investing his personnel wealth.

Of course nobodys knows, with the wall of silence all we can do is try and work out whats happened with the facts we know. All I know is what I posted is what we know.

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Quote: deeHell "That may well be the case, if so it makes a mockery of claims on here over the years that he was the saviour of Wakefield Trinity. All along he's been racking debts up in the clubs name not investing his personnel wealth.

Of course nobodys knows, with the wall of silence all we can do is try and work out whats happened with the facts we know. All I know is what I posted is what we know.'"


I love that term ' Investing ' , what you actually mean is ' throwing away ' ! Trying to make up the shortfall because of the apathy of fans who would rather watch the footy or Leeds/Bradford and the like and spend their money on beer in the pub , but as soon as Cas are in town , they are lifelong loyal every match fans

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Quote: Starbug "I love that term ' Investing ' , what you actually mean is ' throwing away ' ! Trying to make up the shortfall because of the apathy of fans who would rather watch the footy or Leeds/Bradford and the like and spend their money on beer in the pub , but as soon as Cas are in town , they are lifelong loyal every match fans'"
what money ?

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Quote: Starbug "I love that term ' Investing ' , what you actually mean is ' throwing away ' ! Trying to make up the shortfall because of the apathy of fans who would rather watch the footy or Leeds/Bradford and the like and spend their money on beer in the pub , but as soon as Cas are in town , they are lifelong loyal every match fans'"


Well we I suppose the proper terminology would be an emotional investment!

As for the rest of your post...an amateur attempt at fishing! Please try harder c020.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: deeHell "Well we I suppose the proper terminology would be an emotional investment!

As for the rest of your post...an amateur attempt at fishing! Please try harder
An amateur icon_lol.gif , it cost me a lot of money then for an amateur , as I have said , I don't know Mr Richardson although I probably have met him at RFL council meetings , there is no business in the normal world that can prepare you to run a pro sports club , everybody is going into it as an amateur , unfortunately all too often the line between fan and owner , and common business sense and ambition becomes blurred

You should try it icon_wink.gif

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