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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Tell us more, what makes this green-belt better than the green-belt over there... oh, that would be it, that green-belt is over there and not over here... you don't live near there, you live near here!'"


See my last reply as regards which may be considered, by some people, more important.

Oh You don't know where I live icon_razz.gifRAY: but I do actually live nearer there than here!

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo " these sites were already in the core strategy and ARE NOT contributing the additional 95ha. The only site that has been identified in the LDF as, so far, contributing to the additional 95ha is indeed circa 34ha at Newmarket isn't it!
'"


I accept that you are strictly correct but
Lets not get into the semantics about this:

"Site detached from any settlement
which is contrary to Policy CS 1. It is
in the Green Belt which contrary to
Policy CS 3 but proposed to be
removed in accordance with Policy CS
12 due to exceptional circumstances
(the requirement for strategic
employment land on the M62 corridor
in accordance with Policy CS icon_cool.gif. The
proposal is restricted to B8 wholesale
and freight distribution use. This is a
brownfield and greenfield/previously
reclaimed site adjacent Junction 30 of
the M62 contributing towards the
required additional 95 hectares of B8
(storage and distribution) land along
the M62 corridor, which conforms to
Policy CS 8."

as opposed to this:

"In accordance with the regional spatial
strategy and the core strategy, no
further employment land is required to
be allocated for the plan period other
than 95 has of wholesale and freight
distribution (Bicon_cool.gif employment land
within the M62 corridor. This
establishes the exceptional
circumstances required for the 'release'
of green belt land in the absence of
other suitable non-green belt land
being available."

You and I both know that the land at Ferrybridge/Knottingley is "earmarked" for the 95Ha as stated above.

I am sure that there would be little objection to a Stadium on the site as it is proposed (Green Belt) with a small industrial area on the 33 Ha leaving the vast majority untouched. But that would never happen even if it got the all clear, would it? icon_wink.gif

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While I admire your persistence I think you have to admit you've lost this one allmatt.
Wakefield has spoken. Your not making any friends coming on here, we know you don't like the ruling but as they say "put up or shut up!".

If your not a Wakefield fan/ have anything positive to say about NM why bother coming on here?

You lost mate, build a bridge!

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Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "While I admire your persistence I think you have to admit you've lost this one allmatt.
Wakefield has spoken. Your not making any friends coming on here, we know you don't like the ruling but as they say "put up or shut up!".

If your not a Wakefield fan/ have anything positive to say about NM why bother coming on here?

You lost mate, build a bridge!'"

if he can't be d to turn up to the hearing it can't mean that much to him,
just leave if to stew with his own words

the stadium and other developments will happen icon_biggrin.gif

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OY AllMATT!!!! what a sad sad sad person you are!! havent you got anything better to do like take the dog for a walk round the fields where in 14 months time there will be a shiny new sports arena and training facilities built ,worthy of attracting the worlds best rugby league athletes. Now stop bleating on and SOD OFF!!!!

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Quote: teds wallet moth "OY AllMATT!!!! what a sad sad sad person you are!! havent you got anything better to do like take the dog for a walk round the fields where in 14 months time there will be a shiny new sports arena and training facilities built ,worthy of attracting the worlds best rugby league athletes. Now stop bleating on and SOD OFF!!!!'"


Nice! c020.gif

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Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "While I admire your persistence I think you have to admit you've lost this one allmatt.'"


Where?

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: allmatt "I accept that you are strictly correct but
Lets not get into the semantics about this:

<Snip>

You and I both know that the land at Ferrybridge/Knottingley is "earmarked" for the 95Ha as stated above.

I am sure that there would be little objection to a Stadium on the site as it is proposed (Green Belt) with a small industrial area on the 33 Ha leaving the vast majority untouched. But that would never happen even if it got the all clear, would it?
I am correct and I am not getting into semantics, but you are trying to use them to justify your error. The LDF is clear and you even posted an extract from it above which shows it is clear! The sites at Knottingley and Ferrybridge are NOT included in the 95ha as they were already fulfilling the original ratified LDF core strategy areas. They were probably already 'known' and therefore 'earmarked' by Wakefield's strategic planning team to be in the detailed plan and the appropriate areas used in the overall calculated area figures for B8 development, throughout the whole district, within the original now ratified core strategy but they are not included in the additional 95ha. The additional 95ha came out of the original review of the draft LDF and the only site identified so far contributing to this area and therefore within the detailed LDF is Newmarket. That leaves 62ha to find at some point in the future in addition to the areas shown in the LDF, if you just use the circa 33ha only at Newmarket.

The chances are that if they only did develop the 33ha shown in the LDF at Newmarket they would have to find 62ha on other green-belt areas and quite possibly with poorer links to the motorway network and closer to more densely populated areas.

I also think you are kidding yourself if you think that there would be 'little' objection if they only took the 33ha and the stadium/MUGA areas. The 33ha still surrounds the two people making the most noise about this development and the chances are once it is approved in the detailed LDF, as it is will no longer be green-belt but employment land, they will probably get away with a more dense and less sympathetic development.

I am sure they will be delighted! They probably will not get a new road, maybe just improve the existing Newmarket Lane, so they will really have HGV running past their house like they have been claiming is going to happen already, as the size of the development will not suit such a big section 106 contribution.

That is the thing, the current scheme stacks financially and Wakefield gets new community sport facilities and a stadium. If you reduce the size of the scheme it doesn't stack and therefore WE the public miss out, we don't get as many jobs, Wakefield Trinity miss out and the poor saps that live there still get industrial units built around their houses eventually, but we ALL (including the NIMBY's) have less to show for it!

Great plan! Are you going to tell them or should I?

Not that they will listen!

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: allmatt "Good point - Green belt is Green belt! but I am sure that it could be argued by conservationists/ramblers/tree huggers etc that NM is more important in eclological terms.'"


Would that be argued by real conservationists/ramblers/tree huggers or would that be by Wakefield & Leeds Community Conservation Group?

Maybe they should do another Otter survey... although finding the buggers is hard enough, so getting them to answer questions is even harder!

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: allmatt "See my last reply as regards which may be considered, by some people, more important.

Oh You don't know where I live
I have list of circa 1300 addresses on my desk here... I bet yours is one of them! Just need to narrow my search area if you live in Leeds and closer to Ferrybridge than Stanley... hmmm, I reckon I could get it down to less than 50 addresses! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I have list of circa 1300 addresses on my desk here... I bet yours is one of them! Just need to narrow my search area if you live in Leeds and closer to Ferrybridge than Stanley... hmmm, I reckon I could get it down to less than 50 addresses! Steady on old chap, that sounds a bit menacing - last thing we need now is somebody bleating about threats and cyber-stalking!

I reckon if we just let them wallow in their own self-delusion and wait and see what happens re. J30 and Glasshoughton it would be better and less acrimonious for all concerned.

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