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| Quote: stantrin "Newmarket IS half way Glasshoughton IS not.'"
Newmarket is five miles from Belle Vue. What's an extra mile difference to Glasshoughton going to be?
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| Merger yes - as long as no senior partner. Only way to continue with top flight SL at a competetive level.
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "Theres another problem then , if its going to be a partnership then Wakey will have to front up the same amount of cash Cas have already spent , if its to be GH as everyone thinks...................... the problem being youre as skint (if not more so) as us.'"
Hmmm, in which case the whole thing is doomed and we may as well all pack up and go home now. My understanding is that without WTW supporting GH it ain't gonna happen. From a business perspective how is the project going to pay for itself when the stadium is gonna be empty most of the time?
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| Quote: Fordy "Not unless it was definitely a short-term measure (ie one season or less) whilst our own Stadium was being built.'"
This is a very good point. I would definitely say yes to this. Until our stadium is built I would take this.
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| So us Wakefield fans dont like those NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard) or NIYBYs (Not In Your Back Yard) either?
Its hard to keep up what we don't like more? Those blocking NM or those wanting GH?
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| Quote: newwildcat "Hmmm, in which case the whole thing is doomed and we may as well all pack up and go home now. My understanding is that without WTW supporting GH it ain't gonna happen. From a business perspective how is the project going to pay for itself when the stadium is gonna be empty most of the time?'"
total misconception that one mate , Cas can go for a phased build with stands at both sides and add the ends when and if we can afford it. with Wakey we can build the lot. though I dont see how , cos youre skint too
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "If there is a merged team (god forbid) playing in GH Castleford , why do you think it should be called Wakefield at all. If its in Cas then it should be called Cas. Thats the sticking point , one team would lose its identity and I obviousley think it should be you, just as you want to retain Wakey as the team name. As was said on BBC r/l forum [sizeMergers are the last refuge of scoundrels and the weak of mind[/size
I agree long live Castleford and wakey, and to some degree our little flatcapper mates in fev'"
As I said - it's a COMPROMISE and I feel that that's what we're all going to have to do if we want to have SL rugby in the district in the future. It needs a change of mindset - both clubs would lose their current identities and a new identity, representing the whole district, would emerge. I know that Wakefield MDC is an artificial, adminstrative b@st@rd and Cas folk feel no allegiance to Wakefield just as Wakey feels no link to Cas but, like it or not, it is the name of the district. I don't know whether it can happen and I don't know if I'd like it if it did happen but I do think it's the only way forward if we want SL in the area. If we don't then fine but we'll all be little flat cappers 'cos playing Wakey and Fev and Dewsbury and Batley will be the highlight of your season!
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| IF... GH goes ahead as a shared venue OR NM goes ahead as a shared venue....
1) What colour will the stadium be?
2) What do the local amateur clubs feel about it? Will they want to play pre-match games there as they do now?
3) What usage will be had of the ground when RL matches are going on?
4) What would the shared stadium be called if it housed both clubs?
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| Only at GH if the club itself was still based in Wakefield, i.e. that means a clubhouse and must be within a half mile radius of the cathedral. All players playing for the club who re locate to the area must live within the city. Coaches, staff, dancers, ball boys, ticket sellers, likewise. The club shop to be in the City. The juniors and reserves, academy or whatever to play in the city too, not in some park located in Cas.
My guess is that this would happen. In the first twelve to eighteen months. Then (due to "cost" blah, blah, blah) all would drift over to GH / Cas etc. Then the word "merger" would crop up. So that's why it's a NO from me and my family. We could have 13 players who've never set foot in the city. Baaaad!
I would support Trinity in a lower division. Super League just ain't that important.
If Cas moved into GH fair and square with no apparent shenagins from Box then I would have no problem going along and watching them, were I tempted to see the likes of Wigan and saint's playing there. And yes, I would shout for Cas.
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| A lot of posters on this vote have less than 100 posts, hmmm..
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "total misconception that one mate , Cas can go for a phased build with stands at both sides and add the ends when and if we can afford it. with Wakey we can build the lot. though I dont see how , cos youre skint too'"
Even assuming Cas could raise the necessary funds to build it without any help, the fact remains that it would be anywhere near fully occupied 13 days out of 365 and I can't see attendences suddenly going up to 10k plus. Without another sporting club bringing in new revenue streams the running costs are likely to be crippling. Like it or not from a business perspective, sharing a ground is the most sensible option.
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| I don't want to support Wakey playing out of Cas TBH, what a farce of a sport when it all boils down to a freakin stadium on whether you can survive or not in top flight rugby. What a gash season, in fact without relegation results don't seem to matter especially seeing as our season came down like a tonne of bricks a few months back. Now we have all our history, the city's sporting heritage and our hobbies as supporters being likely to be destroyed if we don't jump into bed with Cas?
I would rather see us die as a club, at least it would be dignified, rather than slowly dying at Glasshoughton.
At the end of the day this is our own fault, Thornes Park should have been a massive kick up the backside, we got a franchise on that premise, then we looked like mugs when it came down like a tonne of bricks, looks like it could all be happening again. The fact that this Box fella has a big influence on the things the council do seems so scandalous its untrue. I'm just so disillusioned at the moment with Rugby League, what a joke of a sport though really, it's not about how well you play any more it's about money and stadiums and if your from an 'expansion area'. What a load of s***. I won't be able to really be interested about Wakey anymore unless we have a solid plan for a new home. I'm sorry but playing out of Cas just wouldn't cut it whatsoever. This is in stark contrast to our years of getting hammered every week and being threatened with relegation (because of how we played!), I actually wanted to go and watch us play, at least it was exciting! Now no game will matter unless we get a new ground, simple as that, and what a horrible feeling might I add.
Really sorry state of affairs for two proud clubs, but to me shows how bad the sport is now. Got a real sinking feeling ATM, what will be will be, life will go on.
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| Quote: Richie_L "A lot of posters on this vote have less than 100 posts, hmmm..'"
oh well i apologise for not having 100 posts, when i reach this , am i then allowed an opinion ????
I didnt know we had to get your permission
I have commented but being from Castleford I have not voted, it concerns your club not mine
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| Quote: Richie_L "IF... GH goes ahead as a shared venue OR NM goes ahead as a shared venue....
1) What colour will the stadium be?
2) What do the local amateur clubs feel about it? Will they want to play pre-match games there as they do now?
3) What usage will be had of the ground when RL matches are going on?
4) What would the shared stadium be called if it housed both clubs?'"
I guess all those would be decided if both clubs with fans agree.
In regards to 1, I have already suggested one end behind posts being amber, the other blue, and one side being black and the other white; all colours represent both clubs. For Wakey home games, the amber seats can be the away fans section. For Cas home games the blue seats can be for away fans.
With regards to 4, I would hazard a guess at Newmarket it would be called "Wakefield Community and District Stadium" or akin. At Cas, probably a sponsored ground.
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| I'd like a local sponsor for the ground.
"The Xscape to victory stadium."
£10 Fully watches both sides if we share at Vegas.
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