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If Offiah in his prime played outside Atkins; he wouldn't trouble the Opta stats!

The fact that Atkins is regarded as a top England Centre is a sad endictment of the standard of English/British Centres; he is incapable of putting his winger away and his defensive lines are appalling.

It takes more than size and brute force to make a top Centre..........

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Quote: Mr. Mojo Risin "If Offiah in his prime played outside Atkins; he wouldn't trouble the Opta stats!

The fact that Atkins is regarded as a top England Centre is a sad endictment of the standard of English/British Centres; he is incapable of putting his winger away and his defensive lines are appalling.

It takes more than size and brute force to make a top Centre..........'"


ive been saying this for the last 18 months the lad isnt a centre he is a winger or at a push a 2nd rower

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Prepare to be hung drawn and quartered for having such radical views! Atkins is the messiah remember............

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If ever there is a player to come back and bite yer this lad is one of them.
When he's surrounded by better players and has more competition for his place i think his quality will out.
Whatever his recent perfromances he wasn't given an england shirt out of pity and IT wasn't long ago you all were ranting how great he was and what an injustice it was that senior went to the WC.
I'd welcome him at leeds and i'm sure when you all calm down there's been many wakey players who's form has dipped in the past who you've not castigated like you are now with atkins.

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"form has dipped" i would say absolutely been missing for over 18 months..the dick couldn't even bring his passport to the catalans game last year..YOU CAN HAVE THE LAZY PRIMA DONNA !! and i don't normally criticise any player.

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Quote: upthecats "So your knowledge on what makes a good centre is better than both John Kear and Tony Smith then?

Both top class coaches who have seen his ability and picked him in that position.'"



No it makes there choices limited at best.

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A centre who cannot/will not pass is no centre at all, i got a lot of time for him, but I wish that he would start even offloading and if he can apply himself to learning, then we could have a great player on our hands

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Huge over reaction and very unfair on Atkins. Yes he should have passed a couple of times and didn't this just shows that he will never be an international centre, whatever that may mean these days (not a lot some might say unless you play for NZ or Aus), but still is a more than capable player for us. What a surprise Petersen has left and suddenly he's the dogs dangly bits and it's all Atkins fault! I always stuck up for Petersen and have never rated Atkins as much as some seem to do but to have such a turn around in opinion on these two players is typical Wakey. It was a bad day at the office, a really bad day, both teams were really poor you could pick any number of players from both teams today who, on that performance, should not be playing prfessional Rugby League and we should be grateful we only lost by 8. It's done and gone we now need to pull our socks up and produce performances like Leeds/Saints rather than the pathetic 'effort' today.

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We should stick our neck out and put him in the 2nd row.

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Quote: upthecats "So your knowledge on what makes a good centre is better than both John Kear and Tony Smith then?

Both top class coaches who have seen his ability and picked him in that position.'"


Using that logic we shouldn't comment on anything and unfair on jonh as many have made the same point.

Would you say it's right to select Grix on the wing, for example, or is Kear the only one allowed to comment?

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Quote: rhinoms "If ever there is a player to come back and bite yer this lad is one of them.
When he's surrounded by better players and has more competition for his place i think his quality will out.
Whatever his recent perfromances he wasn't given an england shirt out of pity and IT wasn't long ago you all were ranting how great he was and what an injustice it was that senior went to the WC.
I'd welcome him at leeds and i'm sure when you all calm down there's been many wakey players who's form has dipped in the past who you've not castigated like you are now with atkins.'"


all i can say is show us the money Leeds

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "We should stick our neck out and put him in the 2nd row.'"


He will never make it in the pack far too workshy he’s a winger end of could be a bloody good one at that

As for centres I cant name 3 good Brits in the world what a sad state of affairs we are in just the same at SH and SO

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Quote: TRB "I think the point is that we could fault most players today. Just about all of them either passed, kicked, caught or tackled poorly. Just a terrible day all round and completely un-explainable after we looked so solid the previous 2 weeks! 4.703125:5
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