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| Quote: vastman "And again a touch arrogance. It's a big emotive issue that you can't sanitise I'm afraid - if we are ever to sort these kind of issues then discussions MUST be frank and honest stuff people's feelings. I'm sorry Bren I actually quite like you even respect you a bit in an odd way but this issue matters to me and many others who don't always feel happy with the new world order LEFT or TRUMP right. so in the words of Mrs Merton lets have a heated debate.
I by the way didn't start this debate just put forward an alternative opinion
There is no arrogance - and I make no attempt to sanitise; the point I'm making is that there are much bigger issues around equality and discrimination still to be dealt with - and it's hardly a sign of creeping liberal fascism when a cartoon distributor chooses to delete some of the racially insensitive sight gags from its aged content, so as to allow it still to be watched without needlessly offending people, or attracting criticism. And I don't think the edits are likely to detract from the narrative integrity of a Tom and Jerry cartoon.
And for those who condemn this without actually knowing what was removed - primarily the sambo gags, some OTT violence, and some behaviour that they wouldn't want to be seen as endorsing for the very young age group who might watch - such as smoking.
This is not PC - gone mad or otherwise - it's the right thing to do, coupled with commercial good sense; and I maintain that political correctness is just another way to describe being nicer, and that can't be a bad thing.
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| I'd forgotten about the smoking part.
I don't find it offensive but it looks really strange to me when you watch the older films with people smoking.....especially when it is seen as sexy to blow smoke in someone's face.
Equally I'm glad that my son's TV heroes don't smoke. The message is a lot easier to deliver for a dad to a young kid.
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| Quote: PopTart "I don't find it offensive but it looks really strange to me when you watch the older films with people smoking'"
I don't think the smoking was removed for reasons of offence - rather, for all the reasons you've described.
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| Many of the modern dramas and films contain smoking. You probably havn't noticed it.
Smoking is still very much in evidence but its not tobacco.
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| It always surprises me when the Dambusters film is trotted out every Christmas that Guy Gibsons black Labradour is still called what most black dogs were called in those days.
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| Can't beleive bobody has mentioned bah-bah black sheep yet.
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| Quote: Prince Buster "Many of the modern dramas and films contain smoking. You probably havn't noticed it.
Smoking is still very much in evidence but its not tobacco.'"
Broad walk empire springs to mind.theres not two minutes go by without someone shoving a fag in their gob!
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| Surely in these politically correct times both Hull FC and Widnes should be forced to change from their traditional colours to a neutral gray.
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| Quote: Jackie brown "Broad walk empire springs to mind.theres not two minutes go by without someone shoving a fag in their gob!'"
I think I can confidently say that Boardwalk Empire was aiming for a different demographic than Tom and Jerry.
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| Quote: bren2k "Quote: bren2k "Broad walk empire springs to mind.theres not two minutes go by without someone shoving a fag in their gob!'"
I think I can confidently say that Boardwalk Empire was aiming for a different demographic than Tom and Jerry.'"
Undoubtedly so...
out of interest Bren what your view on the classic RIsing damp? Would you find some of the comments made by rigsby not acceptable nowadays if done in a modern version of rising damp?
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| Quote: Jackie brown "Undoubtedly so...
out of interest Bren what your view on the classic RIsing damp? Would you find some of the comments made by rigsby not acceptable nowadays if done in a modern version of rising damp?'"
I don't remember it in great detail, but I seem to recall that whilst Rigsby was racist - a lot of the comedy in that show was aimed at him [i*because*[/i of his racism; perhaps it was holding a mirror up to the prevailing attitudes of the time, rather than joining in? It certainly didn't have the nasty feel of Alf Garnett or that daft twaddle about the language school.
I think it was re-done for the stage a few years ago and directed by Don Warrington, who played Philip in the original series - so that would suggest he was ok with it.
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| The language thing was 'Mind Your Language'
I can remember laughing at that.
It's on famous video site.
It's painful now.
It's not so much offensive as just a list of racial stereotypes and cliché comments about 'Johnny foreigner'
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| Watched the Rising Damp episode this teatime, classic laughed from start to finish
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| Quote: bren2k "I don't remember it in great detail, but I seem to recall that whilst Rigsby was racist - a lot of the comedy in that show was aimed at him [i*because*[/i of his racism; perhaps it was holding a mirror up to the prevailing attitudes of the time, rather than joining in? It certainly didn't have the nasty feel of Alf Garnett or that daft twaddle about the language school.
I think it was re-done for the stage a few years ago and directed by Don Warrington, who played Philip in the original series - so that would suggest he was ok with it.'"
I guess that's true about the show Love Thy Neighbour, the white guy was racist but also made out to be a fool
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| Quote: Big lads mate "Watched the Rising Damp episode this teatime, classic
It's still very funny.
I've got the complete Love thy Neighbour on DVD!
I'll 'ave half!
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