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| Quote: Daddycool "Phil, you have absolutely no need to justify yourself or your efforts. Those who pour scorn have no idea of the magnitude of effort and work you have provided. You stepped up and tried your damnedest.'"
For most it's pure frustration only a few are being genuinely vindictive.
I don't think it needs to become a them and us not that I'm suggesting that's what you are doing
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| Quote: TRB "Some will never believe us, but every time we said we hoped to give news, we meant it, and I'm sorry that we haven't been able to divulge more. It's easy to pour scorn on the efforts of those who have fought and still do fight for the best we can achieve out of this. Just bear in mind the efforts made when making comments on here - we read them frequently and we are often damned if we do and damned if we don't make comment.
Some may argue that it should have all been done differently, and perhaps, in hindsight, we would do plenty differently ourselves, but we have done nothing other than try something that others just talk about and, for those that are interested - yes, we have invited others to join, but few are prepared to commit / can afford the time it takes.
The whole thing could get very interesting over the next few weeks - one way or another!
Whatever happens - I can honestly say I've tried my best for this City with no personal reward either sought or gained.'"
I back all you say. I know it's hard but try not to confuse genuine concerns with plain moaning if you can.
Might add that IMHO the club and the fans probably owe you money probably a considerable amount - what you've spent on paper alone could fuel a small town.
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| There may not be vitriol as such, just "oh yeah no news", yawn emojis, "yeah of course you can't tell us, that sort of smug attitude.I've had one or two pops aimed at me from people who should know better but I chose not to bite. As I've said before, ten years since I went to what would eventually become a SWAG meeting, maybe ten people, yes TEN people in attendance, out of that four got involved with SWAG, a fifth joined a few weeks later. It's a pity the keyboard warriors snidely having a pop at TRB weren't brave enough to step forward then.
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| Quote: bren2k "I don't see anyone pouring scorn - the vitriol seems, quite rightly, to be directed at YCP and WMDC.
My only (unanswered) question is how the (then) Trust fell for the obvious strategy cooked up by both parties to get Newcold on a separate application, which was subsequently waved through by WMDC; that's the point at which the whole plan fell apart from our perspective.
I can understand the dullard Elston not spotting it - but wasn't Rodney Walker in that meeting? Surely he's a shrewd enough operator to have seen straight through it - and yet there was no objection?'"
From the correspondance published regarding the letter of Joanne Roaney it specifically states the CHAIRMAN OF THE TRUST was present and agreed to this damaging planning condition. The chairman at that time was Sir Rodney Walker !!!!!!!!!
Phil and the rest were lead up the garden path and it was agreed without their knowledge and they were not consulted. I am sure if Phil had known he would not have agreed.
Looks like poor old Phil has not only had to fight the council and developer but has also had to overcome problems within the trust itself.
Nevertheless, its now history as they say. But I would still like to know why such a massive favour was granted to the developer and nothing was gained in return.
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| Just had my usual daily visit to the nutjob forum and although it can be highly controversial , facts can often be found amongst the 'other stuff'
They have a different take on the ground situation and are suggesting we have not realised where the real problem is.
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| Quote: Prince Buster "Just had my usual daily visit to the nutjob forum and although it can be highly controversial , facts can often be found amongst the 'other stuff'
They have a different take on the ground situation and are suggesting we have not realised where the real problem is.'"
Elaborate, by PM if you can't post please.
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| Quote: TRB "Some will never believe us, but every time we said we hoped to give news, we meant it, and I'm sorry that we haven't been able to divulge more. It's easy to pour scorn on the efforts of those who have fought and still do fight for the best we can achieve out of this. Just bear in mind the efforts made when making comments on here - we read them frequently and we are often damned if we do and damned if we don't make comment.
Some may argue that it should have all been done differently, and perhaps, in hindsight, we would do plenty differently ourselves, but we have done nothing other than try something that others just talk about and, for those that are interested - yes, we have invited others to join, but few are prepared to commit / can afford the time it takes.
The whole thing could get very interesting over the next few weeks - one way or another!
Whatever happens - I can honestly say I've tried my best for this City with no personal reward either sought or gained.'"
I think most people appreciate everyone's efforts. It has not been a straightforward priblem we have faced.
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| Quote: vastman "Elaborate, by PM if you can't post please.
Bigalf seems to be the one in the know, his finger points directly and firmly at Rodney Walker. I'm pretty sure I can remember Bigalf coming on here a fair while since mentioning the fact that the original plans had been circumvented.
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| The silence both officially and unofficially from RMW is deafening. I was at the "Hearing" when RMW was giving evidence and amongst the self-promoting accolades he was pouring upon himself, he claimed that he was instrumental in the provision of the new National Stadium at Wembley. Perhaps a small community stadium in a West Yorkshire backwater didn't carry enough prestige for him.
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| Wasn't it rodders who went running to the Wakey express about the revamped belle vue option when he shouldn't have?
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| Quote: Redscat "The silence both officially and unofficially from RMW is deafening. I was at the "Hearing" when RMW was giving evidence and amongst the self-promoting accolades he was pouring upon himself, he claimed that he was instrumental in the provision of the new National Stadium at Wembley. Perhaps a small community stadium in a West Yorkshire backwater didn't carry enough prestige for him.'"
Nailed it. Beware the wolf in sheeps clothing.
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| Quote: Daddycool "Phil, you have absolutely no need to justify yourself or your efforts. Those who pour scorn have no idea of the magnitude of effort and work you have provided. You stepped up and tried your damnedest.'"
Tried your damnedest .That's what they say when you've lost ?.
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| Quote: Redscat "The silence both officially and unofficially from RMW is deafening. I was at the "Hearing" when RMW was giving evidence and amongst the self-promoting accolades he was pouring upon himself, he claimed that he was instrumental in the provision of the new National Stadium at Wembley. Perhaps a small community stadium in a West Yorkshire backwater didn't carry enough prestige for him.'"
That's what I was alluding to, without making a direct allegation; I simply can't believe, for a second, that RW wasn't aware of the consequences of allowing the Newcold application to be submitted separately and outside the 106 agreement.
The question then is why he would allow that - what was his interest...?
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| Quote: JINJER "Bigalf seems to be the one in the know, his finger points directly and firmly at Rodney Walker. I'm pretty sure I can remember Bigalf coming on here a fair while since mentioning the fact that the original plans had been circumvented.'"
Is it true that Rodney walker has shares in yorkcourt or what ever they call them ?????
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| Quote: AKA kellyseye "Is it true that Rodney walker has shares in yorkcourt or what ever they call them ?????'"
Saw him quite regularly on paragon business park, I hoped he was helping secure the community stadium.
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