They owe us a favour because we allowed them to beat us when they were going through a bad spell. I suppose that could be true of other clubs.

Ultimate revenge, haven't you got that a bit twisted? I think it's us what need to run riot next week for the ultimate revenge, it'd make a nice change don't you think.

I think he means in terms of 2004 or 2006.

You know it's a truly dire season when you are not even looking remotely forward to playing Saints.

Sure we don't beat them often but then who does? But we often play well against them, even this year we managed that!

I am a total Trinity optimist but try as I might I can only see another heavy defeat on the cards.

The only scenario I can imagine and its a massive long shot is that this game is such a forgone conclusion that the players may relax in a good way and just go for it and if Saints are also a bit complacent on the day then maybe. I did say it was a bit fantastical.

Every game I go to I expect a win or a very good effort , my passion and excitement for every game has never wained over the years ,and that goes for tomorrow, get stuck in and you never know the outcome , stand off them and it’s a bad day at the office once again .Mental toughness is the key , just as poor Hodgson alluded to last night , that his players don’t like doing the tough stuff and didn’t stand up to Cas and got what was coming and deserved. We very often have fallen into that category over recent years and wilt in the face of tough opposition. I’m still hoping for a rousing performance tomorrow.Lets hope the lads get behind Fifita and give saints hell ,from yours truly and ever the optimist .

Yes but for that to be so you have to believe this team can or even wants to do that. Hand on heart do you really believe that?

Hats off to you if you do by the way.

I'm with you.

And that's the way I start seasons believing that we can win something else what's the point, realisation kicks in when lack of effort for quality spoils that and gives the impression that I'm negative when complaining,
I find it pointless trying encourage the team unless they know where it needs improving, these are professionals and should know the basics of the game but week after week we get the most stupid errors which is beyond belief if only they could rectify that and put the effect it then I could except defeats when it happens.
All teams are beatable just depends on a full side willing to prove that

Now just go out a prove to yourselves you can do it

After watching Leeds thrash Wigan a couple of days ago, there is hope (albeit extremely faint).
If Saints turn up wanting to play, they will put 50+ points on us and it could get very, very messy.

The first thing we have to do is complete our sets and get to a half decent kick, something we couldn't manage last week.

We have the worst defence and worst attack in the comp but, we only need a couple of wins so, we have to keep trying.

There are 8 games left.
I'm supporting to the last second until we can no longer mathematically survive.
And then if the worst happens, I'll support them in the lower division in a shiny new stadium.

Of course it looks really really bad, but it's not over yet.
I'm not rallying the troops. Most have made it clear how they feel and will not change their mind, just saying where I am.
If I don't want the players to give up, then I shouldn't either.

And yet, at the beginning of the season, our first choice three quarters of Johnson, Tupou, Lyne and Lineham are not playing (for various reasons),

Out of that lot the one that we are really missing is Lyne. Defensively the right edge has collapsed without him. He wasn't playing great in attack but what it does show is what a great defender he is. For me he along with Kay is the biggest reason we are in this mess.