Supporters not over thrilled either

I disagree, the squad in my opinion is without doubt good enough to make the top 8. However, they've lost that honesty, patience and work ethic that kept them in games last season. Our discipline is shocking and whilst not unfit we're lazy and do the bare minimum thinking that Tim Smith, Paul Aiton etc will create something out of nothing.

We've become complacent with players who believe they are better than they actually are. We've talented individuals, but we've a dumb team with too many individuals.

I guess, last year virtually all the squad we're new to WTW and keen to impress and bonded and played as a team. In the second season we need things shaking up, just to remind x, y and z who is in charge. It's a test for Agar

I did it was awful dugouts were in way. total rubbish 23quid in horrendous. At least you can see at belle vue

Dont go again simple

No need for insults.


El Rey.

Simple fact is we're a team full of players who are just "steady away". Outside of on occasion Aiton, Collis, T.Smith, we have a group of players that aren't all-round good players. Can't fault the effort we get from most of them, but effort only takes you as far as we currently are. We need quality. Players like Raleigh, Washbrook, L. Smith, Kyle Wood, Paul Sykes, Richie Mathers, Olly Wilkes... they're all steady away but none of them are going to be players that consistently get you challenging for top 8 rugby, in my opinion. However, I can't really fault them. What is baffling is when we clearly struggle down the middle, we offload the likes of Mariano. The problem lies in the club's coffers. Only until we can pay top dollar/full cap will we move forward.

People can blame Agar if they want but I can think of three reasons why we lost today:-

Defence, discipline and unforced errors.

Defence was shocking in the second half and we admittedly put a lot of pressure on ourselves. People falling off tackles and jumping out of the line particularly from the centre positions.

Discipline was poor and gave Rovers a lot of penalties. Mouthing off at the ref or Poore standing offside from the kick off in the 2nd half are examples of penalties conceded which led to tries. I think Rovers got the rub of the green with decisions such as holding down and head high tackles. The incidents were about equal from each side yet somehow I though Child was influenced by the crowd. I'm not blaming the ref for our loss, it was the penalties we conceded which led to a lot of tries. We could have avoided those penalties.

Unforced errors. I remember walking to the ground saying how the conditions were great for an open game. Yet it is a long time since I remember us having so many knock ons! Some from basic passes.

Agar may well have to get them in tomorrow and begin with the basics - "this is a rugby ball".

I can blame team selection as much as anybody else but I don't think that is why we lost. I think we lost because the players were not committed in the 2nd half and a bit off in the 1st.

These last 2 weeks have been very disappointing and things need to pick up and quick. Don't we have Wigan after we play Cas? Makes it even more important that we beat Cas.

Really bright now we are trying to discourage supporters who actually go week in and week out , let's all do that simple club goes bust !

Sorry now I see you are calling a fellow supporter a simpleton - although it did take u two attempts to spell it

Read the post, it says dont go again to KR mate, he was on about how bad the veiw was after spending 23 quid

It was a joke, i know what i was doing

I was in the seated part and the view was pretty good. Best view I've ever had at that ground.

Playing like this for the rest of the season will only bring one thing and thats a slump in season ticket sales thats for sure.This side is good enough just look at some of the sides they beat last season and thats when the excuse of its a new side could be used if it lost.It aint a new side now and that cant be used as a get out of jail card anymore if it dont win.I was all for giving Agar a chance but that chance is starting to get to the thin edge as I belive this lot of players have what it takes to be doing better than at this moment in time.

Think agar spent most of second half listening to the archers on his headphones

The forward's bumholes were too busy twitching like rabbits noses when Rovers gave us some stick midway into the 2nd half, soft cock performance from the pack to a man today, not good enough.

Contact session in the week I reckon, cos we lost just about every single collision (with the exception of the 10 mins running up to half time) throughout the game.