And if you used the criteria factoring in the new stadiums, both KR & Bradford have weaker applications and it should be viewed as such, history doesn't matter - if it did Cas, Wakey and Salford would be safe. If the stadiums are started Bradford & KR should be the 2 the RFL look to kick out.




If you read the thread, you'll see SWC started an argument with himself because he took offence to Fully bringing up a point, instead of explaining it, he had a hissy fit.

I'm not really clued up on all this so I will need someone to explain this. Whereabouts is it based roughly? Like I said in my other post, the overall package is good but I just question whether - as SWC said about civic pride - it will benefit the redevelopment and the city centre of Wakefield as much? It will obviously benefit Bottom Boat, Stanley and Outwood.

WAKEFIELD TRINITY a prestigous history and with the new stadium we can promote the brand that is Wakefield Trinity.

I'm sure they'll invent a new category to save them, because we will both really annoy the RFL by submitting stronger applications. Such as, winning a grand final at some distant time in the past (1 point), or not having a club within 1000 miles to the east (1 point).

Well I do and I live in Stanley... this is one of the main reasons I am trying to do my bit to support this scheme as well as for the good of RL. The team I support is not under threat of expulsion from Super League, our playing record has been quite good in recent years, we have good youth development, spend to the cap, make a profit and have plans to improve our now ageing ground.



This line about unused warehouse space is not really true either (don't believe the hype), some space has come free in the older units around J31 but mostly due to the economic climate but when you look at J41 M1 then all the warehouse space is full. Once again there are some older offices around the area empty but many of them are 25+ years old and need to be knocked down and replaced, as do many of the older empty units which are empty because they are not suitable for current logistical standards and operations. If you look at the York Court Paragon estate as well, although they have quite a bit of space left to develop new units, all the units that have been built are taken. Same goes for M1 J39, the Peel site, all the ones that are built are full.

We will have to disagree about growth mate, don't forget the Bank of England has just downgraded it's growth forecast for the next 12 months as they start to take account of the actual cuts being made by the current Coalition Government and Wakefield has failed in recent years to take it's share of any growth, falling short of the national average.

The WMDC planning policy team have not highlighted the Newmarket Site for B8 development for any other reason than it is a suitable piece of land to meet national and local targets for employment growth. This land was always going to get re-designated in my opinion, irrespective of any current or potential future applications for the area, Wakefield Community Stadium, Surf Word or bloody UK Disney World, because the site stacks up as being suitable in most ways for future development... plain and simple!

I'm with you on that. I would like to see Wakefield Trinity, with "The Wildcats" as a nickname, to preserve the marketing slant, the logo, and keep Daddy Cool for the kids.

Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"And if you used the criteria factoring in the new stadiums, both KR & Bradford have weaker applications and it should be viewed as such, history doesn't matter - if it did Cas, Wakey and Salford would be safe. If the stadiums are started Bradford & KR should be the 2 the RFL look to kick out. '" Err, Quote GaslightThe licenses will be allocated to those clubs that the RFL board believes are the most suitable, taking into account the: a. Extent to which each club helps meet the SLE Strategy and the strategic aims and objectives of the Licensing process; b. Historical activity of the clubs under consideration; and c. RFL’s reasonable opinion as to future performance of the clubs under consideration'" www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php?areaid=193 Bradford have been more successful than all three sides in the SL era and prior to it.

Quote Gaslight="Gaslight"And if you used the criteria factoring in the new stadiums, both KR & Bradford have weaker applications and it should be viewed as such, history doesn't matter - if it did Cas, Wakey and Salford would be safe. If the stadiums are started Bradford & KR should be the 2 the RFL look to kick out. '" Err, Quote GaslightThe licenses will be allocated to those clubs that the RFL board believes are the most suitable, taking into account the: a. Extent to which each club helps meet the SLE Strategy and the strategic aims and objectives of the Licensing process; b. Historical activity of the clubs under consideration; and c. RFL’s reasonable opinion as to future performance of the clubs under consideration'" www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php?areaid=193 Bradford have been more successful than all three sides in the SL era and prior to it.

"RFL's reasonable opinion as to the future performance"

The dark cloud has descended once more.

Outwood stanley Wrenthorpe is Wakefield more jobs new stadium, Wakefields more than the City centre + city centre is not next to the motorway. I don't get your arguement, looking at your previous posts you seem obsessed with our stadium, just be pleased for us. I hope you get yours and we will both be playing each other at our new grounds in 2012.

Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo" We will have to disagree about growth mate, don't forget the Bank of England has just downgraded it's growth forecast for the next 12 months as they start to take account of the actual cuts being made by the current Coalition Government and Wakefield has failed in recent years to take it's share of any growth, falling short of the national average. '" Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster. However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352 That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.

Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo" We will have to disagree about growth mate, don't forget the Bank of England has just downgraded it's growth forecast for the next 12 months as they start to take account of the actual cuts being made by the current Coalition Government and Wakefield has failed in recent years to take it's share of any growth, falling short of the national average. '" Thanks for the in-depth and much better response than the abrasive and tetchy one from another poster. However, regards to the quoted bit above, haven't we just announced growth of 1.1% for the past quarter? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10737352 That to me, shows that the country is achieving growth and with continued investments by businesses in their current structures that can be achieved progressively and much quicker. I realise that this can also be done at Newmarket too but it can be achieved elsewhere too. That was my point. I go into Leeds often and notice the new office space all around Leeds train station that is unused. I think that is why I'm quick to note there is some areas available for stuff like that.

Far from it. I am keen for both clubs to be in new stadia at their respective chosen locations and some people, despite me continuously saying otherwise, seem to think I'm determined for yours to fail or that I am in some way trying to cause trouble. I'm not.

As for not getting my argument, it is probably my delivery rather than what I'm trying to say.

There's no reason why new stadia cannot catapult both clubs into successful periods, IMO.