Did'nt we beat Salford in 2008

Don't think they were a SL side at the time

No room for sentiment with players who cant cut the mustard, and NO ROOM FOR SENTIMENT for coaches who cant either. IMO a change maybe needed. Getting jacked off feeeling crap virtually every week we play. If we played a good game and got beat, heyho, but we cant even put together a half decent performance and compete with the other teams around us. Its hard to see where the next 2 points will come from.

thats right they where in nl1 at the time

Fair point but then his record in SL stands up far better than anybody else who we've had. I am not happy with the rugby we are playing or with some of the players we have but until there is a viable alternative I see little point in getting rid of JK as Wakey being Wakey will replace him with the cheapest option and just hope that everything works out.

Agreed,

How many times do people need reminding that despite the fact that we have been hovering about 8th all season we do not have the attendances, turnover or facilities to compete with the big boys and tbh the expectation that we should regularly do better than 8th - 10th is a little naive.

This is the frustration I and probably others have with peole who continue to back Kear. It is as much the type of rugby and performance as not winning. We shouldn't be getting beat by 30-40 points as often as we are and the one out rugby is boring and mostly ineffective.

Add to that that Kear is touting himself around for any job going and that is why his time is up IMO

Indeed; not to mention his new habit of appearing in front of the cameras after each increasingly abysmal performance to say "that's not good enough - playing like that, we don't deserve to be in the top 8" etc etc. Saying that it was awful doesn't absolve you, the head coach, of any responsibility for its awfulness!

Yes and he doesn't seem to have the answers to the same issues that have been there for at least 2 to 3 months. The odd win here and there seems to appease a section of our support and lull them into a false sense of the corner has been turned.

We know that whilst not the best squad in the league that the players we have are capable of much better performances than they are regularly putting in - so surely we need to find a coach who is able to get that more consistent form out of them whilst introducing them to some of the basics of the game, which under kear seem to have largely been forgotten lately such as :

moving up to meet the opposition in defence
dummy runners and backing up the ball carrier
draw a man before you pass the ball
stand deeper so that when you take the ball up you are running at speed before you meet the opposition defence

That's my point any man alive can say 'go out there lads and let's see 3 drives 2 scoots and a kick.' 'It's over when they score 2 unanswered tries as we are rubbish and not top 8 material.'

We've shown we have the squad to challenge, beating Leeds and running Leeds and Saints away very close is no mean feat. All we lack is a little something only a good coach or captain can provide.

Why not get someone who'll be cheap and leave money for players/ground improvements?

If you go any cheaper then you get Tony Smith, Peter Roe or John Harbin. Who was the coach when we ran Leeds and Saints close and beat Leeds?

I loved Harbin, although his salary under Dowie these days will be well in excess of what we paid him. At least when he was in charge you could class 85% of the fixtures as entertaining and worth the entrance fee most of the times. Sadly at the moment, who would pay £20 to watch the 80 minute borefest that goes on currently.

I agree that the games were interesting under Harbin but I think that was more due to the threat of relegation than the quality of rugby on show. I have to say I found the majority of games last year boring as well but there didn't seem too many people saying it last year. I'm not saying that Kear is the answer but I'd like to see the options before getting rid. That said if we really are on the way out as it seems we might be then I say to hell with it sack Kear and run a raffle on here each week as to who picks the team would certainly liven up the games and maybe even the forum as well!

Decent enough idea.... theres a non league football team which is managed in that way if I remember rightly.