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Quote: Miro "You still here?
Oh dear

You're beginning to sound like a dictator that wishes to be beyond question.
The irony isn't lost on me, icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

You've basically got nothing, other than you're own vivid imagination to back up your own argument.
Mind you there are plenty of conspiracists desperate to find something, anything so, do keep looking.
Some of it is really rather entertaining.

Every government on the planet, regardless of their political persuasion and political motivations suckered in by your "world reset" theory and thank the lord that YOU can see that everyone else is wrong.

I'm just chuffed to bits that you're a Trinity fan or we would have been oblivious to it all.

In years to come, people will flock to Wakefield with tales on how Miro and Matthew saved the world.

Maybe we could celebrate with fireworks on Thursday, maybe we could make it an annual thing.
The last 426 years might just have been "practice" for when Miro was the all seeing eye. d040.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Oh dear

You're beginning to sound like a dictator that wishes to be beyond question.
The irony isn't lost on me,
Yup.

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Quote: Miro "Seems a few of you are ganging up on me today (Paranoid, me??)

Well, here are the rules from your Lord and masters on how to deal with those of us who dare to question, or, in their words, anti-social behavior instead of blindly following the powers that be.

Social disapprovalpro-social behaviour (15). However, this needs to be carefully managed to avoid victimisation, scape goating and misdirected criticism. It needs to be accompanied by clear messaging and promotion of strong collective identity. Consideration should be given to use of social disapproval but with a strong caveat around unwanted negative consequences.

Persuasion

Perceived threat Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures in Hong Kong (10).The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent,using hard-hitting Evaluation of options for increasing social distancing Page 2 emotional messaging. To be effective this must also empower people by making clear the
actions they can take to reduce the threat (11). h

"pro-social behavior"
It's flat I tell thee, definitely flat icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Miro "Then please present your "fact". I can only assume you have access to the inner circle just like you had to Bush And Blair's inner circle prior to the illegal invasion of Iraq. I assume you did anyway.

I can't wait, just what we've all been waiting for. The facts at last.
There you go you get asked for facts and turn it around then go off at a tangent now with Blair et al over the Iraq war you couldn't make it up c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif

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Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "There you go you get asked for facts and turn it around then go off at a tangent now with Blair et al over the Iraq war you couldn't make it up
It's called the scattergun approach.
Standard deflection tactics when the argument is lost.

There are literally hundreds of websites churning out the same bilge that Miro is trying to convince the RL world about.
Some of them enjoy setting mobile phone masts on fire.
Too many sci fi movies at a young age but, they really have latched on to the covid issue, big time.

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Quote: Miro "" paranoid psychosis" Charming.
So why are you still here? It's obvious you only joined RL fans to come on here. Post 12?'"


Not that I disagree with your point, but when was your last post about rugby?

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A chap with such strong views and you restrict it to this little backwater,

Does the wider world not need Miro to enlighten them followed by putting the ones that challenge your views to right, go on do it, take the big step you know you want to. Surely you're not afraid of exposing your views to a wider audience.

You admit this thread only continued after page 15 due to people challenging you so maybe you should do the good thing and pretend we're at page fifteen and don't need to put anyone right

Some may suggest you remain due to the regular attention you receive to your musings. and cuttings

Slightly off message but this business you run where you allow the non wearing of face masks but you keep a stock handy just in case you appear to have a very broad clientele coming through the doors most of them grateful for your mask not necessary on my account policy. I've got it in my head that it's a Corner Shop and that you have morphed in to Arkwright and use the clienteles gratitude for the mask relax to sell them two slabs of Jamaica Ginger Cake this now means I cannot take anything you post on here seriously any more the vision of you in a brown dust coat, scrunching your hands with glee as another victim, sorry client rings the bell on entry, kills your credibility say hello to Granville and Nurse Gladys for me.

Back to my message, you go off and find new outlets for whatever it is you are endeavouring to share with the world don't just keep it here, in fact don't keep it here at all, get yourself out into the big wonderful world wide web let others have a share, it's only fair. Be brave your futures bright but I'd like to believe its not here

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Quote: RickK "A chap with such strong views and you restrict it to this little backwater,

Does the wider world not need Miro to enlighten them followed by putting the ones that challenge your views to right go on do it take the big step you know you want to surely you're4 not afraid of exposing your views to a wider audience.

You admit this thread only continued after page 15 due to people challenging you so maybe you should do the good thing and pretend we're at page fifteen and don't need to put anyone right

Some may suggest you remain due to the regular attention you receive to your musings. and cuttings

Slightly off message but this business you run where you allow the non wearing of face masks but you keep a stock handy just in case you appear to have a very broad clientele coming through the doors most of them grateful for your mask not necessary on my account policy. I've got it in my head that it's a Corner Shop and that you have morphed in to Arkwright and use the clienteles gratitude for the mask relax to sell them two slabs of Jamaica Ginger Cake this now means I cannot take anything you post on here seriously any more the vision of you in a brown dust coat, scrunching your hands with glee as another victim, sorry client rings the bell on entry, kills your credibility say hello to Granville and Nurse Gladys for me.

Back to my message, you go off and find new outlets for whatever it is you are endeavouring to share with the world don't just keep it here, in fact don't keep it here at all, get yourself out into the big wonderful world wide web let others have a share, it's only fair. Be brave your futures bright but I'd like to believe its not here'"


You should take a peek at the famous video sharing site, it makes Miro look like the sane one. icon_eek.gif

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I'm of a delicate nature I'll pass on the video ones, the wordy ones are bad enough

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Quote: RickK "I'm of a delicate nature I'll pass on the video ones, the wordy ones are bad enough'"


It's a whole new world, literally.
I'm not recommending it, just recommending having a look OMG

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Quote: Billy Butcher "Always one who goes full Jack Torrance. Produce evidence of an isolated novel virus, CDC admit this has not being done, paper from CDC admit that they used a computer algorithm to produce a 'virus' and then by consensus declared it as SARS0-COV-2
All the data from around the world proves there's no pandemic, never was and certainly isn't a second wave.

And that's not a wifi password, but you'll never have enough brain power to deduce what it is, are you 'blue pill people', wishing for your freedom to be taken away, you want society to continued to be destroyed and more lives lost because of the criminal actions taken by governments around the world. If you're not then why are you backing what these criminals are doing and not looking at proper science/data, unlike the wildly distorted crud coming out of the supposed leaders?

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Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "Produce evidence of an isolated novel virus, CDC admit this has not being done, paper from CDC admit that they used a computer algorithm to produce a 'virus' and then by consensus declared it as SARS0-COV-2
All the data from around the world proves there's no pandemic, never was and certainly isn't a second wave.

And that's not a wifi password, but you'll never have enough brain power to deduce what it is, are you 'blue pill people', wishing for your freedom to be taken away, you want society to continued to be destroyed and more lives lost because of the criminal actions taken by governments around the world. If you're not then why are you backing what these criminals are doing and not looking at proper science/data, unlike the wildly distorted crud coming out of the supposed leaders?'"


All the data proves no pandemic? Really?

And I'm much more likely to believe the words of democratically elected politicians than some anonymous poster on a rugby forum.
Why you think you are the all knowing I'm not sure but remember you are a visitor on this forum. You are welcome to post but if you come on just looking for a fight I'll have to stop you posting on here.

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Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "Produce evidence of an isolated novel virus, CDC admit this has not being done, paper from CDC admit that they used a computer algorithm to produce a 'virus' and then by consensus declared it as SARS0-COV-2
All the data from around the world proves there's no pandemic, never was and certainly isn't a second wave.

And that's not a wifi password, but you'll never have enough brain power to deduce what it is, are you 'blue pill people', wishing for your freedom to be taken away, you want society to continued to be destroyed and more lives lost because of the criminal actions taken by governments around the world. If you're not then why are you backing what these criminals are doing and not looking at proper science/data, unlike the wildly distorted crud coming out of the supposed leaders?'"


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... lture.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN27633R
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32080990/

Do you really not have access to an Internet search engine?
Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "Produce evidence of an isolated novel virus, CDC admit this has not being done, paper from CDC admit that they used a computer algorithm to produce a 'virus' and then by consensus declared it as SARS0-COV-2
All the data from around the world proves there's no pandemic, never was and certainly isn't a second wave.

And that's not a wifi password, but you'll never have enough brain power to deduce what it is, are you 'blue pill people', wishing for your freedom to be taken away, you want society to continued to be destroyed and more lives lost because of the criminal actions taken by governments around the world. If you're not then why are you backing what these criminals are doing and not looking at proper science/data, unlike the wildly distorted crud coming out of the supposed leaders?'"


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... lture.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN27633R
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32080990/

Do you really not have access to an Internet search engine?


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Quote: coco the fullback "httpsT[/i[ihere are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world[/i”

Wasn't there a claim amongst "conspiracy theorists" that the cultured stocks did not satisfy all four of Koch's postulates?

1. The organism must be regularly associated with the disease and its characteristic lesions.
2. The organism must be isolated from the diseased host and grown in culture.
3. The disease must be reproduced when a pure culture of the organism is introduced into a healthy, susceptible host.
4. The same organism must be reisolated from the experimentally infected host.

[i"It fulfils at least some of Koch’s postulates (the conditions that should be met in order to determine whether an infectious agent causes a particular disease). The totality of available evidence demonstrates that the SARS-CoV-2 virus both exists and is the cause of the disease COVID-19."[/i

https://research.reading.ac.uk/research ... -theories/
Quote: coco the fullback "httpsT[/i[ihere are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world[/i”

Wasn't there a claim amongst "conspiracy theorists" that the cultured stocks did not satisfy all four of Koch's postulates?

1. The organism must be regularly associated with the disease and its characteristic lesions.
2. The organism must be isolated from the diseased host and grown in culture.
3. The disease must be reproduced when a pure culture of the organism is introduced into a healthy, susceptible host.
4. The same organism must be reisolated from the experimentally infected host.

[i"It fulfils at least some of Koch’s postulates (the conditions that should be met in order to determine whether an infectious agent causes a particular disease). The totality of available evidence demonstrates that the SARS-CoV-2 virus both exists and is the cause of the disease COVID-19."[/i

https://research.reading.ac.uk/research ... -theories/


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Quote: coco the fullback "An interesting article here from the economist

I'd dispute the cultural differences between Sweden and the UK, or other European countries, having any significant impact on their performance.
For instance they have various mono cultures present in Sweden, as a percentage of the population they have more people living in Sweden (19%) that were foreign born than the UK (12%). I'd assume this would make messaging with an aim of compliance more difficult to achieve. To be fair, more research would be needed in this area. Please note the percentages given are worked off memory so I may be slightly out.

Their testing was reported as being very poor during the peak in April and even by the end of May, especially if you were to compare it to the rest of the developed world.

I will keep an eye on their excess deaths over the next couple of months to look for any notable increase/decrease.

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