Agree with that FC, you can’t coach desire it’s what’s between the rib cage.

I fear we will get murdered round the ruck as we struggle to control it and their forwards will get them on the front foot. I'd like to see us go out wide early in sets and try and do them on the flanks.

Still got to win the forward battle to do that.

Would actually put Crowther ahead of Batchelor at the present time.

Two completely different players for me and as such not in competition. I see Batch as a runner and a great support player. I see Crowther as an all rounder to cover many options in the pack, I’d play both if it were up to me.

And both really good mates on and off the field . Agree totally FC, I hope this little comparison thing stays sensible

So sorry to have an opinion having been involved in the game for over 50 years in various capacities. What the hell has being friends got to do with it? Stand by what I said that Crowther has edge at the moment. Did I say Batchelor was not good enough? No!

No need to be precious, nobody was having a go at you. Your point was a fair one but there are alternatives views.

As for them being friends, well I’m sorry but that’s no more or less relevant than your fifty years in the game is it? Woks both ways.

Wasn’t having a pop beagle, I was looking at it in a dads eyes and knowing Batch as a mate also, how you came to you reply is beyond me but never mind. I’ve seen how these discussions pan out in the past.

Never ends well does it I imagine you find yourself having to bite your tongue at times on here BLM

People still seem to miss the point made that I thought one player had the edge at the present time. The inference there is that things could change and the other may have slight edge in 12 months time or so. That doesn’t put one against the other. Both are fine prospects.

Correct beagle, couldn’t agree more and here’s hoping that Jack Croft has the same debut as Lee Kershaw had