did you notice Huddersfield had the chance to do the same but chose not to, Jones would off got a yellow from me

I saw that, and after what had happened earlier, I admired them for it. Had Jones been binned last night it would have nipped it in the bud for the rest of the season.

That was absolutely ridiculous last night. Surely the first offence is a forward pass from Jones? From the clip I've seen Brough is lying next to the ruck so not obstructing play. Jones should have been binned.

Only switched on for the 2nd half last night and players seemed to be making an effort to clear the ruck and not be caught in the way. Could have just been coincidence though

With the scores being fairly tight through most of the game, perhaps if Hudds got the chance in an easily kickable position they might have done the same.

Well the ref this evening was very lenient with what went on around the ruck. Maybe they should be more lenient with SL games.

Agreed - and whilst I don't often side with Broughy and his petulant outbursts, I was with him when he yelled at Child, "That's a bull$hit rule!"

Josh Jones looked like a prize grub and has earned disapproval on social media - including from fellow players - but that doesn't change anything; 10 minutes in the bin would have sent a strong message.

Ganson is supportive of Child for giving the penalty, and he makes a good point, which is basically that it happens in the NRL and players adapt because of it. Cameron Smith does it, so players know to roll or scramble away, which is really what we want.

What they should do, however, is give a knock on where a players plonks the ball onto a player who is genuinely trying to clear the ruck.

Just playing devils advocate here but, that is the point of the rule.
Even though a player is trying to clear the ruck, he can still hamper the acting half's options, which is one of the reasons that some players move away slowly.
The ref's need to show some basic understanding of what is going on.

Clearly, when a ball is "passed" forward to ensure that it hits the player on the ground, the decision should be given as a "forward pass". However, like all these things, there are times when the defending player is tying genuinely to clear the ruck and the just cant get out of the way quick enough, unfortunately, it can only be given as "offside".
Having said that, Houghton, last week, wasnt trying to pass the ball to his player, he was only concerned with ensuring that his team geo a penalty and for me, it should have been given the other way.

I would agree with this but if we don't stop players moving of the mark they will be able to step forward when anyone hasn't cleared and simply hit the player with the ball. I don't like the rule as its open to too much mis-use

Agree with that and moving of the mark is only done to gain advantage and to try and steal another penalty.

Gansons explanation is a load rubbish!

Coaches fume at any player who gets left on the ground as the ball is played, it leaves one less player in the defensive line which has Coaching staff tearing their hair out.
Laying around in the ruck area has virtually no positive outcome for the defensive side, unlike leaving your hands in or feigning being caught up in the tackle which are tactics employed by many clubs.

Consider this, players are taught and teams are coached to create an overload situation where more attackers can target one side or other where the defence has got its numbers wrong. The defensive split is everything in the modern game, teams play to certain points on the field where it puts the defence in two minds about the numbers. Half backs and hookers are immensely astute at recognising and exploiting a defence that's got it wrong.

So leaving a defender laying around at the feet of a play the ball is an absolute cardinal sin because one side of the defence is left vulnerable to an overload. There's no need for the 'Ganson remedy' because professional players don't do it by choice, they'd get mullered by the coach. It's unsporting conduct to throw the ball at a prone defender, play the ball on his head and wave imaginary yellow cards in the face of the Referee, leave that cynical type of behaviour to soccer players.

You are right, except it still happens.
If the player is in the way at the play the ball, whether it causes a problem to the defence or not it still impedes what the acting halfback can do, so is a penalty.

I agree it's unsporting to appeal for a yellow card, and I think it is effectively the same to throw the ball at a player that is possibly in the way, but it is still a penalty.
Hull didn't get any more advantage out of the ball being passed at the player than they actually deserved......it was a penalty.

That's the point though, unless we find another way to play the game its inevitable that you'll sometimes get a defender caught in the ruck. If we're happy to see unsporting conduct via deliberately throwing the ball at a defender, just because you can and even though he's not actually in the way then it's a reflection on how far we've sunk.

The referees have discretionary powers throughout the whole rule book, they could sort this by using those powers to punish unsporting conduct and kill this cynical element that's crept into the game.

I'd argue that Hull should have been penalised under the above interpretation so the 4 points they got from it were far more than they were entitled to.

Nailed it.

I agree that if the player is not interfering then it shouldn't be a penalty, but in these cases they could have rolled away and didn't.