On Wakey site still showing kick off at 7.00!

You're the kind of fan I always dread being stood next to on match day. Glass half empty or what

I'm on nights but I'm gonna drag myself out of bed to give the lads a good send off after their efforts this season, regardless of how it finishes. I think we all realise we might never get this chance again but we've come so close on a number of occasions this year that you have to hope it's all part of the learning process.

Up the Trin!

Cas finished last season on 32 points 4 points off 4th. We had 22 points after the regular 23 rounds

Cas finished on 31 points in 5th, Saints finished on 40 points in 4th. Cas also had 21 points after the regular 23 round. (Cas also finished on +22 points, finishing the regular season on -23)

Three pieces of information and you managed to get them all wrong... kudos

Cas fans considered 2016 a success you say ...one peice of information you got wrong.

What do you mean , we all think we might not get this chance again!

I certainly don't, with the players we now have as far as I'm concerned this is just the beginning. Don't be so defeatist

I understand and sympathise with this viewpoint. I also understand and sympathise with the other viewpoint that we would have taken this before the start of the season. Your expectations and goals have to shift throughout the season. How I feel lies somewhere in the middle of the two viewpoints. Pleased we've had a good season but disappointed with how it has ended. That said, Cas beat Wigan and it is all on as we can beat Wigan at home!

I know several Cas fans who considered last season a success at the time, not least for having Solomona score the most amount of tries

Satisfied with a good season, but we have not won anything to celebrate. Still will show my appreciation of the effort the players have put in. I thought they were done at the start of the 8's but they well and truly proved me wrong. Individual errors have cost us, certainly not lack of effort.

individual errors have been a factor but I would say the couple of team performances have contributed more. The two games against Shudds and the loss in the CC v Salford could have changed the whole season. Also that bit of luck would have helped .

Even if Wigan won on Sunday, you can still pee on their chips, as they still need to beat you guys to get into the 4.

Everyone's shouting that Wigan are favourites now, but in effect they have to win 4 from 4 to even have a chance. Lose to either us or you, and saints beat Salford, they finish 5th.

I'd agree with a previous poster with regard to your season. To even be considering the top 4 in February would've been laughable (no offence)

But for the same token you can't really brush off the last two weeks with that stance.

Wakefield had a tremendous opportunity, regardless of whether it was unprecedented, and unfortunately failed at the final hurdle.

No doubt this season will breed confidence for the next, however it is a rare chance gone begging.

With regard to seeing 2016 as a success at castleford, it's very much a mixed bag for me. Considering the injuries which crippled us all season, finishing 5th, with one of our players breaking the try scoring record and another winning the Albert Goldthorpe medal, there were certainly little victories amongst the mediocrity of winning around 50% of our games.

In hindsight though, the exposure the fringe players got from more game time in 2016 has no doubt put us in phenomenal shape this year as a squad.

Hitchcox, minikin, mcmeeken, springer..... To name a few, were not intended to be in the starting 13 last year, however it's certainly developed their game.

I feel wakefield are where castleford were maybe 2 years ago.

That's not to sound patronising or condescending in any way, our growth on and off the field was equally as unprecedented as yours, and it's equally as good to see for the local game. (albeit my enthusiasm for Wakefield is obviously a little more muted lol)

You'll not find anyone disagree with you. We could have had a more sucessful season but for a few daft errors in some early games and the width of an upright in the last 2 games. You're right in thinking that we're probably about 2 years behind Cas too, next year the club aim will surely be to finish strongly and push for the top 4 again, and hopefully now the players have played in some big games they'll understand how to manage them better.

I'm sorry but it does sound patronising. How come we have been presented with a rare opportunity. the clubs worked bloody hard to achieve its position .
Cas have had a great season and have been great to watch but I find it amazing that all of a sudden they have become the measuring stick of success . Huddersfield fans adopted the same attitude a couple of seasons ago so would you say that Cas are probably where Hudds where 2 seasons ago.
Nothings been handed to Wakey on a plate and the sooner our own supporters recognise that fact the sooner we can come to terms with after everything that's gone on just how well the clubs done.
I sense we can expect more patronising comments followed by no offence.
We don't require any kind of simpothy votes .

To be fair to him, it is a rare opportunity, we've not exactly been banging on the door of the top 4 consistently for the past 10 years, it's been this season. He's also not denied that were improving both on and of the field, which we most certainly are. I would take it as a compliment to say we're a couple of years behind Cas, they spent 4-5 years building something special at their club, and we're just coming to the end of our 2nd year of rebuilding a whole club. Next season we will have more stability with the playing group and more idea how to play in both high scoring games and tight games which will be invaluable if we're to push on as a club