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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I think the middle 8's have a lot to do with it, and also the reason why people watch sport
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| I'm a 'newbie' since moving to the area in 2007. Had a season ticket for a few years, my son is 8 now and so does he. There is bugger all else to do in Wakefield so the attendances baffle me to be honest. The club have a decent profile in the area with school/community work and plenty of people take an interest, just not in going to the games sadly.
We need bigger crowds back in for the middle 8s and cheap tickets may be the only way to go. Whether that be 3 game deal or £15 a head per game / kids for a quid etc isn't up to me but the club need to do something to get people through the gate. It would pain me a season ticket holder to know they were getting a better deal but I'd hope it would be worth it in the long run.
Long term the student season ticket rate might need to be reinstated, not something I personally agree but maybe I'm just out of touch. Cheaper single junior tickets for match days to encourage the teenagers to come on their own if their parents won't take them for some reason or another. If the systems are open to abuse then work to close the loopholes. Grown adults are more of a problem - unfortunately we're a throw away society and it seems people are happy to bin off their rugby club if they don't think they are being treated like a king on match day.
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| Quote: wakeytrin "Agree that lack of student tickets have driven people away, also increase of OAP tickets from 60 to 65 haven't helped either.'"
Not sure about the student thing and I would love to see the facts of its loss finacially. The reductions for people just because they are over 60 is crazy OAPs are now over 65 I think. Why should anyone in full time employment be given discount?
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| Quote: sandaltrinityfan ".
once again the people of Wakefield demonstrated that they don't deserve a professional outfit in the city.
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I disagree with that comment. If Wigan,Leeds,Saints or anywhere else had to watch a team with our playing history and record ,in such a dump of a stadium. I don't think they would draw crowds much bigger than ours.
I know a family of 5 who spend well over £100 per game to attend. They have got season tickets and have given up attending games even though they have already paid for them.
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| Quote: jack in the box "I disagree with that comment. If Wigan,Leeds,Saints or anywhere else had to watch a team with our playing history and record ,in such a dump of a stadium. I don't think they would draw crowds much bigger than ours.
I know a family of 5 who spend well over £100 per game to attend. They have got season tickets and have given up attending games even though they have already paid for them.'"
I know people myself who have season tickets but don't attend - it's not really those that I am targeting - probably none of the people who have been to Belle Vue this season am I criticising.
Even when we had a reasonable team (for a couple of seasons maybe?) we never got the crowds we deserved -there is an apathy in the city and that is without dispute to me.
As for Wigan, Saints etc I maintain that if they went through a season like ours has been they would still be getting better crowds because their spectators are not as fickle as ours.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Not sure about the student thing and I would love to see the facts of its loss finacially. The reductions for people just because they are over 60 is crazy OAPs are now over 65 I think. Why should anyone in full time employment be given discount?'"
I imagine there will of been no loss financially because the students that did renew paid 4 1/2 x what they paid the season before so if just 20% renewed which I am guessing will have done, there wont be much of a difference.
But lets look at it this way - Imagine if the Student tickets were was upped to maybe £120 rather than full price, do you think as many would have not renewed? Or do you think that maybe there would of been a higher rate of renewals?
In that case there would be more season tickets sold (More or less same income on sales revenue) - More bodies in the ground, better atmosphere & more potential for sales on match day, obviously creating more revenue for the club.
It just didn't make sense to completely drop the student prices, yes, put it up by all means but full price?
I will say it again we are the only club that I know of in RL (Not just SL) to not have student priced tickets.
Near enough every establishment these days have student prices or student discount why? Because without it they would lose a large chunk of business.
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| I have stated before on here that I have been told that the number of student season ticket holders was not a significant number according to the club so I am not sure doing away with it has lost that many fans - the potential to attract a new generation of fans possibly but again young adults tend to want to watch a winning side unless they are already hooked having attended as a kid
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| Quote: jack in the box "I disagree with that comment. If Wigan,Leeds,Saints or anywhere else had to watch a team with our playing history and record ,in such a dump of a stadium. I don't think they would draw crowds much bigger than ours.
I know a family of 5 who spend well over £100 per game to attend. They have got season tickets and have given up attending games even though they have already paid for them.'"
If this is true,then it must have been under James Websters era.So now we've got Brian Smith,some new signings and being a lot more competitive in games,why don't they give it another chance.The stadium thing I can't argue with,but I go to watch the game,close up,not the decor.Can't possibly think of any excuse or reason to stop watching Trin,apart from dropping dead obviously.
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| Quote: Big lads mate "
Can't possibly think of any excuse or reason to stop watching Trin,apart from dropping dead obviously.
There you go you see - if that's not apathy I don't know what is!
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| Quote: sandaltrinityfan "There you go you see - if that's not apathy I don't know what is!'"
One day it could happen you know
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Not sure about the student thing and I would love to see the facts of its loss finacially. The reductions for people just because they are over 60 is crazy OAPs are now over 65 I think. Why should anyone in full time employment be given discount?'"
It is 65 not 60 for a concession It changed this season
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| Quote: vastman "No the team Wakefield Trinity Wildcats have showed most of the season they don't deserve support.
It took McNally and Kear years to take us up to a (real not Glover) average of about 5,000 fans - it's taken this set of clowns a season maybe 2 to lose them. I think Smith appearance has given fresh hope but you won't turn this nightmare of this season - and be honest it's been atrocious - in 5 games. You offer people that level of crap it's almost impossible to get them back, even a winning streak won't work. We have pretty much done what we didi in the mid 1980's and lost a generation of fans.'"
Are calling the people who saved the club clowns or the players?
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| Quote: Big lads mate "If this is true,then it must have been under James Websters era.So now we've got Brian Smith,some new signings and being a lot more competitive in games,why don't they give it another chance.The stadium thing I can't argue with,but I go to watch the game,close up,not the decor.Can't possibly think of any excuse or reason to stop watching Trin,apart from dropping dead obviously.
I have probably been watching the team longer than you but when I stop going (if I ever do) that will be it, no going back.
I spoke to these people many times and they were just so deflated and demoralised they had had enough, maybe they will return.
However don't kid yourself, Locke apart. Anyone who knows anything about RL is not going to let the likes of Howarth, Arundel or Tansey tempt them back.
These were 5 good solid long time supporters who had just had enough, you can't build crowds when you are loosing supporters as fast as you attract and establish new ones.
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| Quote: sandaltrinityfan "As for Wigan, Saints etc I maintain that if they went through a season like ours has been they would still be getting better crowds because their spectators are not as fickle as ours.'"
The difference for the likes of Wigan and Saints is that a bad season is a blip and they know it. Our fans have been ground down through stadium let-downs and financial failures, lurching from one crisis to another. There comes a point when people have had enough. We have to remember that this is about watching rugby league and this year even that fell to new levels.
A good middle-8's with a new coach and things might turn a bit of a corner, but people need something to attach some hope to, which is what they did when Glover was here. It's just that no one knew it was fluff.
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| Quote: jack in the box "I have probably been watching the team longer than you but when I stop going (if I ever do) that will be it, no going back.
I spoke to these people many times and they were just so deflated and demoralised they had had enough, maybe they will return.
However don't kid yourself, Locke apart. Anyone who knows anything about RL is not going to let the likes of Howarth, Arundel or Tansey tempt them back.
These were 5 good solid long time supporters who had just had enough, you can't build crowds when you are loosing supporters as fast as you attract and establish new ones.'"
All I'm saying is that a new coach may make them have another go and if they have a season ticket already,as you say they have,then it won't cost them owt.
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