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| Interesting post from OP, raises some excellent points
Quote newgroundb4cas="newgroundb4cas" Belle Vue location is perfect. '"
I'm not sure everyone would agree with this though. I think there is a lot wrong with the location and is hardly ideal for away fans especially.
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| Quote pocket 4's="pocket 4's"Interesting post from OP, raises some excellent points
I'm not sure everyone would agree with this though. I think there is a lot wrong with the location and is hardly ideal for away fans especially.'"
Parking aside why is it hardly ideal for away fans, I think BV is a breeze from both motorways, it's not like driving through a major city, plus they could always get off at the Normanton turn off. Sat navy's are pretty easy to use these days too.
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| Parking is the main issue and the fact that the surrounding areas are dodgy may also put some off. If we ever get to grow our home crowds this would become more apparent.
Some fans see a trip to the game as more than just turning up at 3pm and going home afterwards, they want a day out, but the options in and around are terrible in that respect (IMO of course, unless you enjoy the Con Club). Going to our home ground is hardly going to be at the top of people's lists because of its facilities and location - in turn its harder for us to attract casual fans and away fans.
Therefore I don't think the current location is "perfect" at all, as stated by the previous poster. Unless you live in the area of course.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"There is plenty of wealth around Wakefield. They just don't come to see Trinity'"
Prior to Rugby Union turning professional Wakefield was and had been for a few years the top side in Yorkshire, having earned invites from the likes of Gosforth,Bath, and Leicester who between them won the John Player cup on a regular basis, when the game turned pro junior clubs like Rotherham were able to lure the better Wakefield players away with wages the college grove outfit could not match.
Wakefield at the start of the pro era were not perceived as a junior club yet no local wealthy backer came forward to help secure their future financially and as a consequence had to fold, I know there is a fair time span but personally I don't think much has changed and don't see anything altering anytime soon unfortunately.
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| Quote newgroundb4cas="newgroundb4cas"This is the ideal scenario with Yorkcourts money this can be achieved. Belle Vue location is perfect. We just need it polishing and increasing'"
 Wow!! what a U turn, remind me not to ever rob a bank with you.
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| The only way we are going to get fans to that number and have that kind of experience up north is if RFL take the game to freeview channels that are free for people to watch and more games are aired. Is it as simple as that? not quite as apparently people in the sport dont want pay cuts - who would? so we keep grabbing SKYs money but with no real growth of the sport from my experience as a fan.
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| The sport won't survive without Sky. It has changed the game and I think we should appreciate that.
The free to air is good advertising but isn't the reason people don't come to teh games.
Stadium and media perception is more important in my opinion.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt":shock: Wow!! what a U turn, remind me not to ever rob a bank with you.'"
I like Belle Vue just needs money spending on it. Newmarket just smells of you know what to me. Belle Vue is our best chance now.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"The sport won't survive without Sky. It has changed the game and I think we should appreciate that.
The free to air is good advertising but isn't the reason people don't come to teh games.
Stadium and media perception is more important in my opinion.'"
The sport may not survive without Sky but continually looking inwards is no way to get the game to spread.
The deal with Sky in the beginning was ground breaking and the partnership between the RFL under Moggy Lindsay was a good one with Sky.
But like any partnership, if you allow one side to become dominant, they will take advantage.
This maybe a bit strong but Sky has been supplying 'the good stuff', until the RFL is addicted and now is scared to go 'cold turkey' and explore other avenues.
It would have been nice to sit down and watch some week in week out Champoinship games this coming season but the coverage is limited.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"The sport won't survive without Sky. It has changed the game and I think we should appreciate that.
The free to air is good advertising but isn't the reason people don't come to teh games.
[i[uStadium and media perception is more important in my opinion[/u[/i.'"
A bit of silverware helps as well.
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| Quote FickleFingerOfFate="FickleFingerOfFate"The sport may not survive without Sky but continually looking inwards is no way to get the game to spread.
The deal with Sky in the beginning was ground breaking and the partnership between the RFL under Moggy Lindsay was a good one with Sky.
But like any partnership, if you allow one side to become dominant, they will take advantage.
This maybe a bit strong but Sky has been supplying 'the good stuff', until the RFL is addicted and now is scared to go 'cold turkey' and explore other avenues.
It would have been nice to sit down and watch some week in week out Champoinship games this coming season but the coverage is limited.'"
Agreed.
Although the Sky deal was very good, there seemed to be one hell of a rush to extend (without apparently exploring other avenues).
Other options certainly weren't made public and we are with Sky till 2021.
Sky may be good for RL but, RL is very good for Sky.
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| I've always liked the old lady. Not as glamorous as she used to be but could be made good again with some funding. Personally I don't think parking is a big issue as the walk from Heath common has become part of the occasion over the years. Last seasons trip was almost perfect with the good weather making the stroll from the common very pleasant and the ground certainly looked a lot brighter. If you get too many other attractions in the surrounding area fans won't spend as much in the ground.
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