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Quote: bensbag "Interesting and thoughtfull post,perhaps the modern day proffesionalism doesn't help ? In the days of Johnny T,Nigel Bell and Billy Conway these were guys who lived at the end of your street,went in your local pub and went to the same supermarket your family did.You ran into these fellas in the street and they would tell you honestly how much any defeat hurt and sometimes tell you things they maybe shouldn't have ! but this made you part of the Trinity and you shared every tackle with them,every win and every loss.Nowadays players think nothing of travelling fair distances to play and perhaps the local hero element is lost because of it.I can remember Wakefield signing players from wrong side of t'Pennines and the worries this used to cause about how said player would cope with all the travelling and would he settle over here ? No such worries these days it would seem and looking back most seemed to manage,with the odd exception! To sum up I suppose what I am saying is that we trusted Tommo,Belly etc because we felt we had known them for years, and it will take a good time to endear to the current squad as most of them are still relative strangers but hopefully it will come.All good relationships are built over time so let's see how it goes.Forgive the nostalgia trip but their my memories and I'm proud of em.'"

Have to agree with tyhat, this current side doesn't, at present, have a real local hero or one that has earned the adulation of the fans through sheer blood, sweat and tears. Ther fact that we found it so hard to choose a club captain kind of typifies this. It will hopefully come in time but as we stand now we haven't anyone who fits the bill. Closest to it is probably Danny Kirmond due to his style and his previous stint but hes a bit to go yet to reach cult status. Though Peter Foxs' general enthusiasm and try saving tackle with his face last saturday helped his cause as well!

Its not just the older generation though that has a problem like that but the young kids as well. Up until last year there was the pre-match or halftime chats with a young fan and the main question always was 'who is your favourite player'? Even in recent years it was a Danny Brough, Jason Demetriou, Korky, Sam Obst type player that was the favourite. Hell even Morrison got the honour last year, mainly due to his style of play. But this year there are a lack of casndidates for the kids to relate to. A personality who they go 'I want to be like them'. Foxy is probably as close as we've got at present. Again it will take time with a whole new team to build new heroes but its fair to say that for this year there is a lack of people for many to relate to.

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Was hoping that Southern would be the one to show the never say die attitude.
Be a real Talisman and fit in with the backs to the wall Trinity style of recent years.
Still feel he can be.
Hope he settles down and really shows us all those attributes.

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I think much of this stems from the Admin situation, which decimated the squad, followed by a clearout/ exodus and then makink 16/17 new signings.
In every sense of the word we have a new team, with very little continuity from previous seasons.
From last season we have Johnson and Mariano, who themselves were new players to us last season.
I know its been said but, even if most of the current squad stay with us (and there is no certainty of that) it will take a few seasons for many of these players to feel like ours.
Having said that, we have some excellent players at the moment, Mathers, Cockayne, Aiton, Wood, Amor and some good young 'uns coming through, it will just take a while.
For what its worth (and with the benefit of hindsight) I think our turnover of players in the close season was far too dramatic and although there was good reason for some of the changes, the turnover of players was far too great.

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Quote: vastman "You worry to much you sentimental old booby
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Sometimes it takes just one or two moments/actions for a guy to become a 'hero' to the fans.

Examples: Korky belting Jim Gannon (?) at Featherstone on his debut, or his run at Hull

JD knocking off two forwards and scoring under the posts in 'that' match against Cas, or his running out of his own in goal against Bradford the week before.

One that sticks out for me involved Wally Lewis. At home against Oldham he was laid out by the Kiwi fullback Nick Wright in the act of putting his brother Scott in for a try. It was a bad one and he went off on a stretcher, unconscious. Me and my mates thought that was it and he wouldn't make it back on the pitch before his contract was up. The roar that greeted Wally as he ran back down the old tunnel and onto the pitch a short while later was huge.
Up to then whilst I was glad that he'd signed for us there was always the nagging doubt that he was 'tossing it off' and had only come for the money. Coming back on put an end to my nagging doubts. That day he went from being a great player to one of my hero's.
Others may disagree but it's that kind of thing that does it for me.

The first of our players to score the winner against Leeds at Headingley having previously laid out Ryan Bailey will be well on the way, to similar status. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: LyndsayGill "
Examples: Korky belting Jim Gannon (?) at Featherstone on his debut, or his run at Hull

Aidrian Flynn.

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Quote: jacques "Was hoping that Southern would be the one to show the never say die attitude.
Be a real Talisman and fit in with the backs to the wall Trinity style of recent years.
Still feel he can be.
Hope he settles down and really shows us all those attributes.'"


I still think there's something stopping the guy from being the player we have seen but glimpses of. Playing him at prop didn't help and I don't want to get into all that prop business again but clearly it was exhausting him. He doesn't look fit and there have been suggestions on here that he has problems off the pitch. I don't know but we do need him fired up and ready to face 'em again!

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Quote: LyndsayGill "Sometimes it takes just one or two moments/actions for a guy to become a 'hero' to the fans.

Examples: Korky belting Jim Gannon (?) at Featherstone on his debut, or his run at Hull

JD knocking off two forwards and scoring under the posts in 'that' match against Cas, or his running out of his own in goal against Bradford the week before.

One that sticks out for me involved Wally Lewis. At home against Oldham he was laid out by the Kiwi fullback Nick Wright in the act of putting his brother Scott in for a try. It was a bad one and he went off on a stretcher, unconscious. Me and my mates thought that was it and he wouldn't make it back on the pitch before his contract was up. The roar that greeted Wally as he ran back down the old tunnel and onto the pitch a short while later was huge.
Up to then whilst I was glad that he'd signed for us there was always the nagging doubt that he was 'tossing it off' and had only come for the money. Coming back on put an end to my nagging doubts. That day he went from being a great player to one of my hero's.
Others may disagree but it's that kind of thing that does it for me.

The first of our players to score the winner against Leeds at Headingley having previously laid out Ryan Bailey will be well on the way, to similar status.
I have similar memories of Wally Lewis.
I have a group of players I respect for their great skill and a group of players that are my heroes for their toughness, endevour and attitude.
Wally is on both icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Aidrian Flynn.'"

I think it was Jim Carlton to be fair!!

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It was Flynn that Korky brayed the living daylights out of. It was Carlton who went looking for retribution and left with his tail firmly between his legs.

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It was Flyn, he layed on his back under Korki and threw one, not a good idea.

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Quote: Trinity 61 "I think it was Jim Carlton to be fair!!'"


It was Flynn.

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Definitely Flynn, remember it well.

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