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Quote: Tigerade "Well done to Steve Gill :-


Michael speaks very highly of Steve Gill.

Good signing IMO. icon_biggrin.gif

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Just confirmed on twitter we have him until end of season

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Not a loan signing then, I hope he goes well for the remainder of the season.

With the reduction to twelve teams next season, it’s squeaky bum time for a number of players. Let’s hope he can impress & help pull us out of the mire & earn a new deal.

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Quote: The Avenger "Bad comparison, no not really!

We know what to expect from Owen and IMO he's not much different to Fox, he'll finish tries that are laid on a plate for him but he won't create much on his own, he's a bit dodgy under the high ball, is defensively weak and can have the odd game where he's nothing short of catastrophic.

Liam Kaye on the other hand was making great progress, he was highly regarded at Doncaster and is highly valued at Leigh, while with us he looked a good prospect and handled everything thrown at him including both attack and defence.
On potential alone he was a better option than Owen!

I never mentioned him being one of our own but he would have ticked that box as far as the RFL are concerned, I don't know who made the decision not to negotiate with him but in the long term it was a poor decision.'"


Sorry but don't agree, for me you're way over rating a player with 2 SL games to his name who frankly know one mentioned on here until he scored a winner against Cas.

Owen has way more RL pedigree regardless of who he plays for - he's a in a different class to Kaye and anyone who knows RL would tell you that. Think you have rose tinted specs on here.

Whether long term Kay would have been the better signing who knows it's pure speculation which is exactly what a prospect is - personally I was a fan of Liams and wished we'd kept him. I'd have preferred that to any Owen deal. However fan of his as I am I can't and won't kid myself that at this moment he's a better player than Owen because he simple isn't if you base it on current and previous form.

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so can he play Sunday or not

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Quote: bazzo44 "so can he play Sunday or not'"

Yes

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Quote: El Rey "How is signing a fourth choice winger from Cas a step forward.

He'll be on more than Liam Kaye.'"


But maybe his agent doesn't take as much as Kaye's Al icon_wink.gif

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Keep a winning team as it is for this weekend except for Collis unless injuries but when he's settled in its got to be Owen at 2 and Riley at 5 with Fox out on loan to the championship?

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Quote: Trinity 61 "But maybe his agent doesn't take as much as Kaye's Al

True and he's probably not done Liam any favours but what will he care.

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Regardless of whatever you think od the lad he has signed so we should at least get behind him, not to forget this adds a bit more competition in the backs which can only be a good thing.

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British, 24-proven in Super League and can score tries. Not in bad form and with a point to prove will be trying to impress. What's not to like. Good signing and in area where we need strengthening. Works for me.

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Quote: vastman "Sorry but don't agree, for me you're way over rating a player with 2 SL games to his name who frankly know one mentioned on here until he scored a winner against Cas.

Owen has way more RL pedigree regardless of who he plays for - he's a in a different class to Kaye and anyone who knows RL would tell you that. Think you have rose tinted specs on here.

Whether long term Kay would have been the better signing who knows it's pure speculation which is exactly what a prospect is - personally I was a fan of Liams and wished we'd kept him. I'd have preferred that to any Owen deal. However fan of his as I am I can't and won't kid myself that at this moment he's a better player than Owen because he simple isn't if you base it on current and previous form.'"


How am I over rating him, I said he was highly regarded at both Doncaster and Leigh, which he is.
I said he'd handled everything SL had thrown at him and had done so with aplomb, which he did.

You may not have mentioned him before he scored against Cas but don't try speaking for everyone, I for one knew quite a bit about him both as a junior and as a Doncaster player.

Owen doesn't have a greater RL pedigree that's just you building a case, he does have more experience though I'll admit that. What Kaye has that Owen doesn't is unknown potential, we don't know yet how good he could be.Owen on the other hand is a known quantity and fits the description I gave in my earlier post.

Well done on trying to claim some kind of knowledge based higher ground with your "anyone who knows RL would tell you that" comment but I'll back my judgement thank you and although I don't know you I'd trust my judgement over yours based on your posts.

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How can u say Owen is a known quantity when he is only 24.he is still young and learning so as still got unknown potential just like kaye

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Owen is past it!

Not shown anything since he left Liverpool, years ago!

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