I know quite a few long standing fans who (£100) or not are rapidly losing interest in this squad thats been put together at the expense of our own players. a team crammed with imports or off quota players.

They are fully aware of playing a team full of kids and what would happen if they did, and they are aware of the fact that many of the young players are not ready and have not been groomed properly.

Agar will no doubt be doing what he thinks best with the clubs backing and he can't please everyone, thats how it goes.

The crunch will come if we don't develope within the three years and for now we'll have to support what we have and i think most right minded fans will.

Thats not strictly true, if you don't coach/mentor them and spend the time and money then very few will make good Pro players, plenty have fallen away at Wakey over the years through no fault of there own.

But yes i agree that the Clans right.

Most fans won't give a monkeys how many imports we field as long as we get some consistency (not getting tonked every week). Especially in year one, fans want to go and watch a side that competes and can go have a few beers afterwards to celebrate a good WTW team. Something that we have been missing, more fans come through the gates when we are a winning side. Let's worry about the kids coming through after next season.

Getting players in with this calibre is great for our young players. We are kidding ourselves if we think 10 of our academy will be top players. I think 5 have huge potential at tops; players who we are signing will bring them on a treat. St Helens is a great example they bring players through and they get nutured through a top team like lomax, foster etc. The likes of Dean is never going to be a top player you see who has got it and who hasn't yes he will make a good wage in rugby league. I think its time to complain if we don't see the likes of Walshaw , spiers , trout etc all year and not play a game. That is the time to complain. We cannot field a full team of youngsters and I dont think half a team of our youth is feasable. If we filter the a few through at a time nurture them properly. That is the way.

I disagree, i don't want to support a side that as no roots in this City, but thats just me.

It would be nice to see BV rocking again and i would love to celebrate a few wins thats for sure.

We need to blood the kids when they are ready and that may well be after next season, the secret is to use them when they are ready and not the other way around.

Of course its easier for Saints and others having settled squads and that were its different for us, for a season or so at least, but yes you are right.

For me its about getting the balance right by the end of this 3 year period. If that means we have to put up with a few extra imports this coming year then so be it as long as our young 'uns get a go when the time is right. Theres no doubt some of our guys are under developed physically in comparison to other teams youngers of the same age so if its felt by the professional coaching staff that this is the correct way forward then you've got to trust them. Provided we do the right things by people then i'm happy to go with it. The crunch will be the next two close seasons and how the recruitment goes then.

Exactly how i see it.

wow a well put statement there for you

I was talking to Tony Durey the other week who had concerns that the Under 18s needed attention again and thought that the players coming through could of done better, reasons for him keeping an eye out on that level.

He has filled me with confidence that the system that has been set up is now starting to pay dividends, bringing in a new culture of wanting to play for the club and with that feel good factor with it.

Spot on.

Exactly that.

OK, why do you assume that just because we don't have imports we must fill the side with youngsters from our own academy that are potentially not ready for SL week in week out? I'm not suggesting we stick 7 or 8 lads into the side and let them (most probably) get pagga'd every week, this would clearly be good news for nobody.

We all agree we need some fillers in the squad, some players who are seasoned pro's who are physically ready for SL and who are battle hardened, why do these players need to be imports? We have made some really good signings this year, the likes of Fox, Wilkes, Raleigh, Kirkmond and even Cockayne are all grizzled pro's in their prime - but I am suggesting the other players we have brought on board such as the ones mentioned earlier are the ones we need to stay away from.

A quick skeg through the forum shows there was/is a pretty decent choice in home grown/fed trained players thought/rumoured available from other clubs - a few half decent players from the to of my head include:

Scott Moore, Lee Smith, Elliott Kear, Jordan James, Luke Gale, Tomas Bosc, John Clarke, Jamie Ellis, Stefan Ratchford, Matty Blythe,
Ben Flower, Chris Riley, Stefan Marsh

Have we investigated all avenues or just taken the easy option?

(And thats not to mention the likes of Murphy, Gledhill, George etc who have all left us)

Quite a few of those are already signed up and were signed up some time ago, some before we got the nod to stay in SL but whose to say we didn't try to sign a few of those players and were beaten by other clubs, there's no way of knowing.
Got to ask, why do you think it's the easy option signing foreign players over British because it seems to me that there's more messing around getting foreign players over here and helping them get homes and settled etc then British players.