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| I see in the programme notes that once again we the supporters have to do our bit and not to exude negativity. The problem is he forgot the part the board are suppose to play in providing a team that enables a mere modicum of hope rather than the drivel we are served. I wish him good luck in convincing the supporters to remain positive and back the team regardless.
I am sorry but he had a chance to put together a squad worthy of the RWB or whatever colours we have but this was missed on the altar of prudence. This was the one season when our survival in SL was at its greatest but their understanding was usurped by the urge of all accountants to save money.
When they move on I will still be a supporter because that is what we do.
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| Quote: Prince Buster "2) the money didn't come from Wakefield Trinity so hasn't cost 'us' anything.'"
Wow ! Is there a magic money tree
Which also looks, when you try and think for "transparency", as a former employee of the club, shouldn't any kind of severance/disbursement fee be paid by the club.
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Wow ! Is there a magic money tree
It wasn't severance pay. He didn't sign the contract. Carter paid him out of goodwill as they'd verbally agreed before the results and fans turned.
I don't have any evidence but that's how I understood it.
But it's all moot. He has been gone more than a year.
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| Quote: PopTart "
It wasn't severance pay. He didn't sign the contract. Carter paid him out of goodwill as they'd verbally agreed before the results and fans turned.
I don't have any evidence but that's how I understood it.
But it's all moot. He has been gone more than a year.'"
Well there seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors around all of this.
I do know how much chester was paid on his first contract, quite a good sum. If Carter has paid him out of his own pocket, then thats his business. However, the sum involved is significant and if it had gone on the team budget it would have helped for sure. Like I said, Carter business but he shouldnt then turn around and try and cover up all his failures with the excuse we have no money.
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| Another week of no communication from the club. Yeah, good luck trying to keep a decent sized fanbase in the championship next year with that atttitude.
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| Quote: Willzay "Another week of no communication from the club. Yeah, good luck trying to keep a decent sized fanbase in the championship next year with that atttitude.'"
What communication do you want?
Applegarth has done plenty of interviews about the team.
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| Quote: Willzay "Another week of no communication from the club. Yeah, good luck trying to keep a decent sized fanbase in the championship next year with that atttitude.'"
Supported Wakefield for 20 years now. Me and my Dad (who has a platinum membership) have travelled up to almost every home game during that period. We have witnessed many poor patches of form in that time, but this is distinctly different to anything we have seen before. The lack of effort along with direction (game plan) is obvious to see. We now go to games not even hoping for a win but simply to see if we can score a point is where we have got to. The fact that the coach is still in place is truly astonishing. It seems as though the board have the same lack of effort/fight that we see in the team. To do nothing in this circumstance is as baffling as it is deflating. With every game that passes we get cut further adrift and is one less game for any new coach to have the opportunity change the culture and tac tics that may give us at least a glimmer of hope. Sheffield Eagles for me next year....at least they try...oh and they have an assistant coach there called Paul Broadbent...you know...a man who along with Kear did a great job at Wakefield...a man with SL experience as a player and coach...a man with international coaching experience with Italy...a man with presence and integrity........a man who has a mobile phone...that can take calls from the 01924 area.
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| Quote: PopTart "What communication do you want?
Applegarth has done plenty of interviews about the team.'"
I'm not sure that standing in front of the camera with a vacant stare for 9 weeks repeating the same mantra of "we're doing it tough but I can see the effort...we just need to keep going" is really much of an interview
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| Quote: Egg Banjo "I'm not sure that standing in front of the camera with a vacant stare for 9 weeks repeating the same mantra of "we're doing it tough but I can see the effort...we just need to keep going" is really much of an interview'"
Do I need to repeat the question or is that it?
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| Quote: PopTart "What communication do you want?
Applegarth has done plenty of interviews about the team.'"
They could start with announcing that the current coach has been removed from the running of the first team and we are actively undergoing a full application process and hope to have made an appointment by the Hull fixture. I have nothing against the current incumbent but he is clearly out of his depth and I see no sign he knows how to reverse the performances.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "They could start with announcing that the current coach has been removed from the running of the first team and we are actively undergoing a full application process and hope to have made an appointment by the Hull fixture. I have nothing against the current incumbent but he is clearly out of his depth and I see no sign he knows how to reverse the performances.'"
In effect we now have a three week break until the Hull game. We are never going to get anything at the Pies & Wire and we always lose in the cup. As you say, time for a reset and get a new coach in for the Hull game
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| Quote: newcat "In effect we now have a three week break until the Hull game. We are never going to get anything at the Pies & Wire and we always lose in the cup. As you say, time for a reset and get a new coach in for the Hull game'"
I actually thought it was the cup at the end of April, but it’s the international break.
Point still valid though.
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Signing of Gale noted but I think an experienced SL coach is also needed to steer the ship off the field and try to get Trinity re-building for the future even if it’s too late for this season.
10 losses on the bounce and Applegarth is still in the chair along with Ford. He lost a lot of credibility with me when he backed Lineham and didn’t give Murphy the 5 shirt.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... ore-target
His signings Atoni and Proctor have been dreadful as was the decision to let Hall go and bring in Dagger who’s no better at full back than Kay.
Going without a proven 6 was crazy and he should have been bringing in Corey Norman or similar instead of going for an overweight old second row Proctor to play at prop. His judgment of Gaskell/Smith/Langi at 6 also backs the feeling of SL coaching ineptitude. After 10 games into the season Proctor still does not appear match fit.
I am sorry but I think he got the nod as he fit the ‘cheap as chips’ price bracket and probably doesn’t demand too much from club management, he isn’t what Trinity need.
Who to replace him then?
John Kear would be my answer on a long term contract with someone like Gale later as an assistant when he retires from playing possibly.
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Signing of Gale noted but I think an experienced SL coach is also needed to steer the ship off the field and try to get Trinity re-building for the future even if it’s too late for this season.
10 losses on the bounce and Applegarth is still in the chair along with Ford. He lost a lot of credibility with me when he backed Lineham and didn’t give Murphy the 5 shirt.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... ore-target
His signings Atoni and Proctor have been dreadful as was the decision to let Hall go and bring in Dagger who’s no better at full back than Kay.
Going without a proven 6 was crazy and he should have been bringing in Corey Norman or similar instead of going for an overweight old second row Proctor to play at prop. His judgment of Gaskell/Smith/Langi at 6 also backs the feeling of SL coaching ineptitude. After 10 games into the season Proctor still does not appear match fit.
I am sorry but I think he got the nod as he fit the ‘cheap as chips’ price bracket and probably doesn’t demand too much from club management, he isn’t what Trinity need.
Who to replace him then?
John Kear would be my answer on a long term contract with someone like Gale later as an assistant when he retires from playing possibly.
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| Quote: asmadasa "Signing of Gale noted but I think an experienced SL coach is also needed to steer the ship off the field and try to get Trinity re-building for the future even if it’s too late for this season.
10 losses on the bounce and Applegarth is still in the chair along with Ford. He lost a lot of credibility with me when he backed Lineham and didn’t give Murphy the 5 shirt.
Someone like Kear, with Applegarth as assistant would be great but, it's very, very unlikely to happen.
Kear is doing a decent job at Widnes.
They're in a play off spot, which is something that Kear would no doubt love to see through.
The bottom line is about who may be available and who would actually want to take us on.
Already, the very best we can hope for is an 11th spot finish and we have nobody of real value to sell to allow us some spend elsewhere.
After Murphy, Hall was our best young player and we literally gave him away
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