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| Quote: Wakeylad21 "So BS had to be convinced to coach us after the MPG but then wanted to buy us?
MC has said many times on Twitter that he would sell for a pound but no one is interested, well BS was but it didn't happen because he didn't have a business plan.
You can't make this up!'"
So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
a, can't show a business plan
b, can't confirm the money
[iIn retrospect[/i
c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?
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| Quote: The Avenger "So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
a, can't show a business plan
b, can't confirm the money
[iIn retrospect[/i
c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?'"
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| Quote: The Avenger "So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
a, can't show a business plan
b, can't confirm the money
[iIn retrospect[/i
c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?'"
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| Quote: The Avenger "So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
a, can't show a business plan
b, can't confirm the money
[iIn retrospect[/i
c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?'"
Well said.
As another poster said, imagine if Smith was given full control, racked up debt, and bogged off to Aus? I applaud Carter for not taking that risk, even if it's to protect his own interests as well as the clubs.
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| If I was selling a business why would I expect a business plan from the incoming party. m C said at the end of last season he was unsure of his position, he's also said if the right people came in he would stand aside . I suppose it comes down to the evaluation from the owner and the offer from the buyer. Just how do you value a club .Could the club expect a better offer from someone with as much RL know all. Is the club for sale and would anyone interested be prepared to offer a plan going forward to M C , I doubt it
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| Quote: The Avenger "So is Mick Carter supposed to just hand over the club to someone who
a, can't show a business plan
b, can't confirm the money
[iIn retrospect[/i
c, had about as much sticking power as a second hand post it note
Where would the duty of care be in just offloading control of the club to any Tom, Dick or Harry who said they wanted it?'"
The reality is that we don't know if thats the full truth it's MC version of events. One of them if not both of them are been economical with the truth. It's hard to form an opinion all you can do is look at either parties motivations and characters then come to a uninformed opinion. Either way the more that comes out the more confused I am.
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| I agree with The Avenger's summary; and if MC's interest in making the club successful and sustainable is driven by a motivation to recoup his investment, then good - that's a much healthier motivation than that of say, a fan, who'll do anything for instant success.
This whole thing sounds like a power struggle that's gone sour; and now BS has thrown his teddy out and resorted to sordid internet trolling techniques to put pressure on MC - not at all the strategy one would expect from a serious operator with a reputation to consider, and serious intentions to take over a club that he suddenly appears to care deeply about, despite upping sticks and leaving it in the mire.
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| Did hear Smith attempted the same thing with Hull and Bulls funny how he left them with half a job done ?
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| They seemed to do ok after he left though so I'm not sure you can say they were bad days for him.
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| I have to say I'm getting a bit bored with this now though.
I liked Smith but he's gone now.
He needs to get off facebook and carry on with his life.
MC needs to concentrate on running the club and learning from this. Doesn't need to counter any stories, just set about getting acoach that will suit us.
We can do without the distraction.
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| If and its a big if there seems to be genuine progress re. Purchase of ground and possibilities of development I can fully understand why MC would want to stay at the helm and oversee it all.
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| Quote: thebeagle "If and its a big if there seems to be genuine progress re. Purchase of ground and possibilities of development I can fully understand why MC would want to stay at the helm and oversee it all.'"
And conversely, why BS might suddenly want a piece of the action by way of equity share...?
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| Quote: thebeagle "If and its a big if there seems to be genuine progress re. Purchase of ground and possibilities of development I can fully understand why MC would want to stay at the helm and oversee it all.'"
Exactly - if only because if the ground refurbishment comes off, then the value of the club will be at least £2. Instant 100% profit!
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| Quote: lampyboy "If I was selling a business why would I expect a business plan from the incoming party. m C said at the end of last season he was unsure of his position, he's also said if the right people came in he would stand aside . I suppose it comes down to the evaluation from the owner and the offer from the buyer. Just how do you value a club .Could the club expect a better offer from someone with as much RL know all. Is the club for sale and would anyone interested be prepared to offer a plan going forward to M C , I doubt it'"
errr... because MC has put a lot of his own money in to the club!
I think it only reasonable to ask any prospective owner what he intends to do with it!
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| Quote: Trinity1315 "errr... because MC has put a lot of his own money in to the club!
I think it only reasonable to ask any prospective owner what he intends to do with it!'"
IF he was selling the whole shooting match, surely he would want to clear his cost's / debt and wouldn't be overly concerned as to the new owners next move.
If we are talking investment and taking on a shareholder, then, of course, that would be different.
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